Go to Dwight early in the game, early in the quarter, early in the shot clock

Thanks for educating us on the difference between a "concerted effort" and a "commitment". Based on that I would say that you are showing a commitment to making yourself look foolish with your reply.

 

Yes bballholic is too strong in his resolve, but not sure why he's getting so much heat for this

He's saying that Harden as a LEADER needs to lead better at keeping his big man engaged on offense. There are numerous accounts that Harden and Howard arent "close". And even Clutch mentioned that he's hardly EVER seen them even talking to each other until recently. It is possible to go through motions while not being passionately involved in them.

That means, 15 Dwight nonchalant touches to 15 motivated touches, same activity but can be difference between the two. Bbholic says it absolute form thats what it is. I'm saying its a plausible reason

 

He's catching heat because for the second time this year he's now declared that the same thing has happened for the first time.

As far as whether or not Harden and Howard are close, I don't think it really matters. Not only weren't Shaq and Kobe close, they flat out disliked each other but they still played well together and won titles.

 

Ok, I'll make a concerted effort to watch for Harden's commitment...or should I make a commitment to watch for Harden's concerted effort. Oh well, it's one of those.

 

I am going to go ahead and disagree.

Dwight needs to make a commitment (or concerted effort) to run the PnR with Harden.

Dwight post ups are terribly inefficient. While I am happy they were effective last night, I see now reason to believe he has turned a corner on the whole, in that regard.

 

This. It's not only that he shots 28% from greater than 3 feet but he also turns it over at a high rate.

 

I think Harden and Capela have a much better chance at achieving the level of "concertment" you desire.

 

How is this something new? It doesn't take all this to know we should work inside out instead of the other way around.

The garm has officially become r****ded. So annoying with these regurgitated threads that are made out to be "news".

 

I don't. I think there's a better chance we grab a guard. I imagine 'Kief is our back up plan.

 

Inside out has never worked with Dwight, it wasn't what they used in Orlando, his reading of defenses is pretty awful.

 

lols

basketballholic backpedaling from his "Harden is showing a concerted effort the last couple of games. I can see the difference." to say exactly what I predicted... ("Oh, well, so it's just three games.")

haha. Right on cue.

Further...(I love this ****..) ...

He is trying to distance himself from the phrase "Concerted effort" calling it only "effort" now with the delicious statement, "a commitment is a different level of an effort." Looks like he is trying to expunge that all important word "Concerted" from his Nov 29th post, because it is the very definition of Planned Teamwork which he combined with Effort.

And this is just further backpedaling, describing to aelliott the difference between Commitment and Concerted Effort.

"Concerted Effort, which basically means they ran multiple plays to get Dwight free and James participated in those plays to get Dwight the basketball"​

Commitment is "non-called play, free-form action where Harden was looking for Dwight early", and saying there was none of that in either the Nov 27th or Nov 29th games.​

hmmm....let's see how good his memory actually is, and I'll try to designate them as Commitment vs Concerted Effort

Nov 27th

Early In the Game, Early in the 1st Q and Early Shot Clock

Transition high PnR with Alley-oop (miss) -- "Commitment to wait for Howard"
http://stats.nba.com/cvp.html?GameID=0021500232&GameEventID=24#

Harden waving off Bev to set up low post Dwight -- both "Commitment and Concerted Effort" I think
http://stats.nba.com/cvp.html?GameID=0021500232&GameEventID=32#

Transition Alley-oop -- "Commitment"
http://stats.nba.com/cvp.html?GameID=0021500232&GameEventID=35#​

Early Third and Early Shot Clock

Early seal by Dwight with an awesome bounce pass by Harden "Commitment"
http://stats.nba.com/cvp.html?GameID=0021500232&GameEventID=276#

Two man game, PnR starting with Harden in Post-Up "Concerted Effort"
http://stats.nba.com/cvp.html?GameID=0021500232&GameEventID=340#​

hmm....Maybe that whole 3 week gap of no Concerted Effort and Commitment was also him just forgetting, too.

 

We're definitely getting Lou Williams.

 

Obviously. Many people on here have been saying that for a while now, including the coaches. Easier said than done though.


Annoying post...

 

Not a new concept.

Basketball has been best when played 'inside - out' forever and a day.

We're severely under utilising D-Mo right now, but the good news is once he starts to get the ball down low more often, we are going to be highly improved.

 

Nov 29th Game

Early Game, Early First Quarter, Early Shot Clock

Very first play of the game off of Opening Tip. Low Post Howard. "Concerted Effort"
http://stats.nba.com/cvp.html?GameID=0021500252&GameEventID=2#

Howard goes out after 4 minutes of play...early foul trouble

Howard comes back in at 2 min mark but Harden has to rest

Immediate Set plays Thornton to Lost Post Howard (blocked) "Good Job, Good Concerted Effort"
http://stats.nba.com/cvp.html?GameID=0021500252&GameEventID=107#

Ball movement resulting in Thornton Alley Oop to Howard (miss) "Good Job, Good Commitment"
http://stats.nba.com/cvp.html?GameID=0021500252&GameEventID=107#

Early Clock, Howard calling the Low Post Play from Thornton "Concerted Effort"
http://stats.nba.com/cvp.html?GameID=0021500252&GameEventID=118#
​

Early Second Quarter, Early Shot Clock

Immediate Low Post Play from several angles of entry (miss) Good Job, Good "Concerted Effort"
http://stats.nba.com/cvp.html?GameID=0021500252&GameEventID=134#

Howard sits at 10 minute mark. Harden comes in a little later. They got staggered due to Howard's early foul trouble.

Non-Play, Free Form Action Returns as Harden Alley-oop to Capela early shot clock "Commitment"
http://stats.nba.com/cvp.html?GameID=0021500252&GameEventID=165#

Harden Drive for Capela Slam "Commitment" I think?
http://stats.nba.com/cvp.html?GameID=0021500252&GameEventID=263#​

Early Third Quarter, Early Shot Clock

2nd Play of Q, Howard early seal, nice bounce pass by Harden (miss) "Good Job, Good Commitment"
http://stats.nba.com/cvp.html?GameID=0021500252&GameEventID=284#
Early Shot Clock, Howard Decoy, Harden nice Pocket Pass to Capela (miss) "Good Job, Good Commitment
http://stats.nba.com/cvp.html?GameID=0021500252&GameEventID=294#

Next Play, Harden Calls for Low Post Howard using Ariza as Entry (foul)..."Concerted Effort"
side-note...Interesting to see Harden pointing to an open Bev as an Inside-Out option for Howard
http://stats.nba.com/cvp.html?GameID=0021500252&GameEventID=315#

Next Play, Beautiful Alley Oop Harden to Howard "Commitment"
http://stats.nba.com/cvp.html?GameID=0021500252&GameEventID=321#

Next Play, Harden Drives for noice pass to Capela in traffic, Howard keeping defense at bay on other side "Commitment"
http://stats.nba.com/cvp.html?GameID=0021500252&GameEventID=328#

Early Clock, Harden calls for low post to Howard (miss) "Good Job, Good Commitment"
side-note, notice the NYK announcers say "Howard's been looking to shoot everytime he gets the ball" no Inside-Out??
http://stats.nba.com/cvp.html?GameID=0021500252&GameEventID=348#

Early Clock, Harden PnR with Howard, defense gives Harden room he keeps it this time "Concerted Effort"
http://stats.nba.com/cvp.html?GameID=0021500252&GameEventID=358#​

Early 4th Quarter

Harden resting, Rox go straight to Howard (goaltending Porzingis on likely AirBall by Howard) "Concerted Effort"
http://stats.nba.com/cvp.html?GameID=0021500252&GameEventID=396#

Early Clock to trailing Howard (miss) "Commitment"
http://stats.nba.com/cvp.html?GameID=0021500252&GameEventID=402#

Harden back in, immediate early shock clock to Howard low post (air ball) "Concerted Effort"
Again, NYK announcers point out Howard is a black hole. No Inside-Out in his mind
http://stats.nba.com/cvp.html?GameID=0021500252&GameEventID=423#

Next Play, out of timeout...Ball Movement initiated by a double post Harden/Howard turned into a PnR. Howard gets it low post not looking to pass (blocked) "WTF was that Dwight"
NYK Announcers "Howard in disarray, just out of control" No Inside Out
http://stats.nba.com/cvp.html?GameID=0021500252&GameEventID=430#

Howard takes a rest​

Overtime

Early to Howard

The Slam you all been waiting for through Porzingis from Thornton "Commitment"
http://stats.nba.com/cvp.html?GameID=0021500252&GameEventID=528#

Harden running set high PnR probing and finds Howard for a foul "Concerted Effort"
http://stats.nba.com/cvp.html?GameID=0021500252&GameEventID=548#​

 

The exercise above was the try to figure out what is the difference between "Concerted Effort" and "Commitment"

The two games shown were the two games OP said in his Nov 29th post were once that "Harden showed a Concerted Effort to get the ball to Howard" Then he backpedals to explain to aelliott that's not the same as "Commitment" and there was no "Commitment" in those games...saying this,

"Commitment is "non-called play, free-form action where Harden was looking for Dwight early", and saying there was none of that in either the Nov 27th or Nov 29th games."​

Looks like OP just forgot about those Free-Form plays of Harden to Howard in the games he said only had "Concerted Effort". So, one is left wondering how many other plays he forgot since Nov 29th. Or, maybe it would just be easier for him to say, "Yeah, Harden's been doing it for awhile, but both he and Howard are just too inconsistent at hooking up."

Instead, OP is spending so much effort in denial of any inconsistency in his own posts, which is really not necessary, except he persists, and sets himself up, but he has to be right at all times.

His backpedaling is like he's thinking this...

"I must somehow convince people that Commitment and Concerted Effort are not the same thing, and declare a big Gap of no effort between Jan 29th and Dec 19th. Or all my concerted effort writing awesomely long paragraphs in my commitment to being right in this thread will be for naught."
-- basketballholic​