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Five Centers vs Five Guards

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by celebrevida, Jun 22, 2016.

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What is the outcome of 5 Center vs 5 Guards?

  1. Five Centers Mostly Wins

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    39.7%
  2. Five Guards Mostly Wins

    32 vote(s)
    55.2%
  3. 50/50

    3 vote(s)
    5.2%
  1. Easy

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    This.

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  2. Liberon

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    Shaq was silky smooth when he was 286lbs to 303lbs. He moved like a gazelle for a his size which is where the legend really begins.
     
  3. BiGGieStuFF

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    They are big but doesn't mean they can't handle the ball. if it's that bad they can back down dribble all the way past half court. They are all the same size they can switch on everything and keep guards shooting jump shots. If the jump shot is on then it's going to be difficult to win but if they are off just a little bit, it's going to be a massacre inside by the centers team not only because of inside scoring and rebounding but because of fouls. They have the luxury of passing high because the guards are not going to be able to get up that high to catch the passes. for transition D they can lay 2-3 guys back on the perimeter because 2 shaqs inside are enough to score and rebound.

    out of 10 games, I'd say the bigs win 6-7.
     
  4. YOLO

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    the reality is 5 shaqs would not be able to handle a full court press in a full game. doesn't matter if they can back down dribble or not. its not that simple. its really easy continuous turnovers waiting to happen. Bigs just seem to think they can handle the ball but when faced with the kind of pressure guards take in a game, they'll continue to cough up TOs
     
  5. celebrevida

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    This is really more what I was thinking. So I'm surprised it seems most people pick 5 guards to mostly win although 5 Jordans I can definitely understand since Jordan was a rather tall and strong guard.

    But once you get into smaller (6'3") type guards (Curry, Westbrook, Irving, Iverson) against giant physically dominating centers like Shaq (or similar), I would think the 5 centers would win mostly for sure.

    And when people think that Shaq had zero handles and parked himself in the paint look up "Shaq fast break" on youtube!
     
  6. celebrevida

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    Shaq can just lop high passes to other Shaqs without ever putting the ball on the floor and making it too high up to steal, no? This is especially true if we are talking short guards (6'3" or under).
     
  7. YOLO

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    you original post was about jordan type guards then to westbrooks which lobbing passes isn't much of a factor with the athleticism in those type of players. If nate robinson has the ability to block to get up an block yao ming, that gives you an idea if the jumping ability of guards in the league. every single guard can dunk. With that said, ball eventually has to touch the floor and on numerous occasions.

    If you keep downplaying the height of shaq's opponents, you're then basically making it a father son duo which isn't much of a discussion.
     
  8. YOLO

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    you're severally overreacting to isloated plays. Yao Ming drove the ball behind the back on a one man fast break before. That doesn't mean he can handle the ball in a full game much less a full court press.
     
  9. Easy

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    You underestimate the speed of NBA guards on defense. Centers simply cannot handle full court press.

    If bigs could beat smaller players in full court, you would have seen more big lineups used in real games. The fact is, the game is trending toward going small rather than going big.

    If it was a half court game, it'd be different.

    Also, if it's 5 Shaqs, the guards could just use hack-a-shaq tactic too.
     
  10. juicystream

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    Young Shaq played more athletic than prime Shaq, who was fat.
     
  11. BiGGieStuFF

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    hack-a-shaq? so possible 3 point play each time at the line? Make 1 free throw and miss 2nd and 3 shaqs get the rebound over 4 guards. Put back for 2. worst case scenario, miss 2 FTs, rebound put back for 2. guards in foul trouble.

    There just isn't enough skilled bigs anymore. When was the last time you saw a big man with a decent hookshot. Everyone is growing up playing face-up to the basket and that includes big men.
     
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    scoreless tie, endlessly trading blocked shots for steals....
     
  13. Jayzers_100

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    ...A team of 5 Jordans could beat anyone lol.

    This is a fair discussion though:
    As others have said, I feel like the Centers would win more often based upon their ability to score at will.
     
  14. celebrevida

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    I wonder if anyone can program this into their XBoxOne or PS4. I'm far from claiming these things are close to reality in a computer simulation but it would be interesting to see what would happen based on computer modeling of these players. :grin:
     
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    that made me laugh. good one. :grin:
     
  16. Liberon

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    Westbrook is about Wade's size as of now and has a 8'6" + standing reach to go with it. I highly doubt Shaq can get up quickly enough to challenge some of Westbrooks dunks.
     
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    5 Draymond Greens vs 5 Bruce Bowens

    See which 5 survives injuries first. My guess is Draymond goes out and Bowens are left with 2 players in a scoreless tie.
     
  18. celebrevida

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    A related question is which of the five lineups is the most potent regardless of opponent?

    5 Iverson
    4 Iverson 1 Shaq
    3 Iverson 2 Shaq
    2 Iverson 3 Shaq
    1 Iverson 4 Shaq
    5 Shaq
     
  19. iconoclastic

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    Five centers would win easily. Just form a straight line and hand the ball off from one center's hand to the next, then down the line, while the first center runs to the end of the line to receive the ball again when it gets to him, and so on, so that it's basically endless handoffs until the last center dunks it.

    Yes, and then it would be 5 on 4 after one quarter.
     
  20. rpr52121

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    Heck what about 5 prime healthy Ralph Sampson's?

    5 prime healthy Bill Walton's?

    5 Moses Malone's?

    5 Wilt Chamberlain's?

    5 Gary Payton's?

    5 Magic Johnson's?

    5 Oscar Robertson's?

    5 Jason Kidd's?

    5 Minnesota Kevin Garnett's?

    5 Pete Maravich's?

    5 John Havlicek's?

    5 Clyde Drexler's?
     

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