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FIRE RICK SMITH!!!

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by ipaman, Oct 26, 2015.

  1. ipaman

    ipaman Contributing Member

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    So you completely disregard last year when evaluating BOB's performance?
     
  2. Mr. Clutch

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    Last year when it was mostly Kubiaks roster.

    Imo its the choice of players where BOB really screwed up. He's probably on OK coach when he has a good roster.
     
  3. Nimo

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    He's probably too stubborn to see it that way. He wants to be the next Belichik or Chip Kelly.
     
  4. Nimo

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    The coach, on the other hand is ranked #23, worse than Ken Whisenhunt
     
  5. Nimo

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    That's typically how the GM/Coach duties are split.

    The coach is in charge of who plays, when they play, and how they play.

    The GM controls who is removed from and added to the available player pool.

    Naturally they have have input to each other on their decisions ('i like this guy! draft him!' or 'i hate this guy! cut him!'), but the buck ultimately stops with each of them in their respective roles.

    Both of them have failed miserably this year, but if this split of duties is true, then Rick Smith has been failing a lot a worse for a lot longer than BOB has.
     
  7. ipaman

    ipaman Contributing Member

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    Not buying it. Take a look at last years depth chart and this year's. Very few differences. Major differences QB change, healthy/injured Foster, and Myers retirement. You could argue every other change is a better player.

    2014
    Fitzpatrick
    Foster
    Prosch
    Graham
    Johnson
    Hopkins/Martin
    Brown
    Su'a-Filo
    Myers
    Brooks
    Newton

    Watt
    Powe
    Crick/Pagan
    Clowney
    Reed
    Cushing
    Dent
    Jackson
    Joseph
    Swearinger
    Lewis

    2015
    Hoyer
    Blue
    Prosch
    Fiedorowicz/Graham
    Hopkins/Shorts
    Washington/Strong
    Brown
    Aboushi
    Jones
    Brooks
    Newton

    Watt
    Wilfork
    Crick
    Clowney
    Mercilus
    Cushing
    Dent
    Jackson
    Joseph
    Moore
    Demps
     
  8. ooooaaaah!

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    The defense is a complete disaster. How did it go from what it was last year, to this? Vince Wilfork, Clowney... Did Joseph fall off a talent cliff.... is Cushing really that slow...Did Brooks Reed leaving matter?

    I'm not saying its coaching but I'm having a hard time believing that there isn't a problem in the locker room. Hard Knocks, Bobby O sucking, they are a joke. They got blown out twice in seven weeks. Mallet, it must have been Mallet, damn looker room cancer!!!

    At least the tailgating is still good.
     
  9. waytookrzy079

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    That's the problem... i wouldn't be surprised if this is the case within their offices either. Nobody has a clearly defined role. Is Rick Smith the GM or just a figure head? Is BOB the coach or GM and Coach?

    If Rick Smith is, in fact, the GM, then he should to be in charge bringing in the players.

    Either figure out what style of play will produce a winning product and hire a coach that will accept and coach according to those methodologies, or figure out the style/methodology the coaching staff has been successful with using in the past, and find the players that fit that mold.
     
  10. Nimo

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    Starting QB, starting NT, starting WR2, starting SS, starting FS, OLB. That is pretty substantial.
     
  11. Nimo

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    They also have different OL and DL coaches this year
     
  12. Mr. Clutch

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    Not only that, but every coach has to reload through draft and free agency to some extent annually.

    BOB aggressively trading up is a big reason for depth problems. For the analytical NFL types, trading up is generally seen as a bad thing, for what it's worth.

    And the backups too. Most of bobs are completely worthless
     
  13. ipaman

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    So are you making the argument that the new starters are worse than their predecessors?

    I believe that Lewis is way better than Demps. Fitz marginally better than Hoyer/Mallet. But the rest, I think the 2015s are better players.

    Obviously Foster >>>> Blue but can't blame BOB for injuries. You could argue with a healthy Foster we are 4-3. Can't expect BOB to replace Foster after the draft occurred and FAs signed. Just bad luck.
     
  14. Nimo

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    Clutch is saying the BOB picked these guys over last year's guys. These are his guys. My point is that the new starters, picked by BOB are playing worse than the ones from last year. If those guys were better, then why let them go and replace them with worse players?

    And Demps replaces Swearinger and Moore replaces Lewis in theory. But they don't use a strong safety often like other teams do.
     
  15. lnchan

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    Chron has more on this weird dynamic. No lines of accountability... recipe for a disaster:
     
  16. Mr. Clutch

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    Refusal to take responsibility

    Smh
     
  17. Rocket River

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    I have seen this play out before.
    I think Rick may survive the off season
    but if next year sucks then he will be sacrificed to give BO'B a fourth year
    maybe even a fifth
    I think at the end of this season some Coordinators will be put on the block first though

    BO'B: Please mighty Football Gods. . . . take this Sacrifice so I may coach one more year in the NFL!!!
    Romeo: hey! What the hell is going on here!!!
    BO'B: Sorry Ro . . . 2016 will be my year. . .I CAN FEEL it .. . .but I have to make a sacrifice to get a shot at it .. .
    Romeo: WAIT!! Uhm!!


    [​IMG]

    Rocket River
     
  18. Nimo

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    On Hard Knocks, even though they agreed, it was more Rick Smith "agreeing" with O'Brien than it was the other way around.
     
  19. mick fry

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    Any news on Rick Smiths firing yet? Just checkin'.
     
  20. Nimo

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    Everything we are hearing (from the team, not speculation from blog posts and message boarders) actually makes Rick Smith look better not worse. I think he's going to be gone but the coaching HAS got to improve.
     

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