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Federalist: Absolute Power

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Carl Herrera, Apr 13, 2020.

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    One of the few politicians I respect.
    https://thehill.com/homenews/house/...power-to-open-up-states-read-the-constitution

    Amash knocks Trump tweet about power to 'open up' states: 'Read the Constitution'

    Rep. Justin Amash (I-Mich.) called out President Trump for his “flat-out wrong” tweet claiming the president has the power to reopen states where businesses have ground to a halt in response to the coronavirus pandemic instead of governors.

    “President Trump is flat-out wrong,” Amash tweeted Monday, in response to Trump’s earlier tweet.

    “The president has no authority to ‘close down’ or ‘open up’ the states. He’s the one creating conflict and confusion,” Amash, a former Republican who announced last summer that he would be leaving his party after coming out in support of an impeachment inquiry against Trump, said.

    "Put down the authoritarianism and read the Constitution," he added.

    Trump tweeted Monday morning that it is within his authority to decide when to “open up the states.” He said the “Fake News Media” is reporting that it’s up to the governors “for the purpose of creating conflict and confusion.”

    “It is the decision of the President, and for many good reasons. With that being said, the Administration and I are working closely with the Governors, and this will continue. A decision by me, in conjunction with the Governors and input from others, will be made shortly!” Trump tweeted.

    Legal experts who spoke to The Hill said that Trump can issue federal regulations to prevent the spread of diseases, but said the president doesn't have the authority to reverse public health restrictions put in place at state or local levels.

    Nearly every state has issued a stay-at-home order in response to the coronavirus pandemic.

    The White House has recommended Americans avoid restaurants and nonessential travel as well as keep in-person gatherings to 10 people until April 30, but Trump has largely avoided telling states what measures to put in place.

    Some states could possibly begin rolling back restrictions beginning next month, Anthony Fauci said Sunday. Fauci, a member of the White House coronavirus task force, warned that the measures need to be gradual and will differ by region.
     
  3. JuanValdez

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    Fair warning, while it is up to state governors whether or not we'll open, the federal government does have a lot of tools with which to bully states that do not cooperate. And given that the only states that will put up much of a fight will be the Pacific coast, Illinois, and the Northeast, that's a manageable number of states to bully.
     
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    Even conservatives that have read the United States Constitution (something trump has never even seen) know trump is laughably and even terrifyingly wrong



    No, Trump Can’t Force States to Reopen
    By JOHN YOO
    April 13, 2020 3:47 PM
    https://www.nationalreview.com/2020...ates-to-reopen/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
     
  5. JuanValdez

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    Thinking about the tactics he might employ to achieve this de facto power. One I think he'd be able to do is withhold disbursements/spending for states that defy his re-open orders. Another could be to play along with a state's protections by adding additional regulation of interstate commerce in the name of stopping the spread from hotspots to effectively starve the state of imports and export markets. Of course, he'd say in public it's for the common good, but the point would be to force the governor to compromise with him.

    It's probably pretty dangerous for the press to dogpile Trump about what he can't do because it'll just make him want to prove that he can do it. And he doesn't let things like morals get in the way of winning an argument. It'll be the quiet Republican governors who will have the most influence here, like Gov Abbott. He might get the White House to take things slow enough that Texas doesn't explode, all the while looking outwardly like there is total alignment. The patsies in the Plains States will do whatever Trump wants. And the democratic governors can fight but Trump will make them suffer for it.
     
  6. NewRoxFan

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    Gee... it almost sounds like you are describing a despot who needs to be carefully approached else he does even worst things to our country...
     
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    uh.. well... Truth be told, all the governors have to do is THANK him publicly before and at the end of any conversation....lol. His ego is delicate.
     
  8. Cannonball

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    Federalist.com thinks it is the Governors that are acting like tyrants. The Federalist is decrying federalism.

     
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    lulz ... he’s saying he’s Captain Bligh? All I have to say is

    ... same as this tweet

     
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    The "federalist" blog is just as fake as the republican in the white house...
     

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