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[Failed State] Yemen: Bombers Murder Scores Of People

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Cohete Rojo, Mar 20, 2015.

  1. Cohete Rojo

    Cohete Rojo Contributing Member

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    Yemen's president was recently ousted by Iranian backed Shiite rebels. However, Yemen has long been a tribal war state, it seems. I remember reading a National Geographic article from the mid-1990's which stated that there are three things that matter in Yemen: Qat, silver coins and AK's.

    This almost makes it sound like a proxy war between Iran and ISIS. Iran is the largest foreign backer of the Shiite government in Iraq and has been said to back the Houthi rebels in Yemen.

    Gruesome: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugEqJ4QBp5A
     
  2. Cohete Rojo

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    Wow. Really? No one wants to discuss this? ISIS has allegedly committed a major attack outside its home turf against an Iranian allied rebel group. That rebel group has been fighting the US allied government. And now this. How messed up could this conflict be that the US backed government was somehow involved in an ISIS terror attack?

    Anyway, the US is getting many of its troops out of Yemen. This is supposedly because of an Al-Qaeda attack against the city, which was eventually repelled against locals - because they've all got guns. So...the CIA has been helping the former Yemeni government carry out drone strikes, but who thinks every attack was against "the bad guys"? Because apparently $500 million dollars given to the government by the CIA have been unaccounted for. Really?

     
  3. AroundTheWorld

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    This is terrible - but it's not just a failed state - it is once again a religious ideology being used to justify incredible violence and murders.

    And that people do not wish to discuss this seems to indicate more numbness towards this. People don't seem to care much as long as it doesn't happen somewhere very close to them.
     
  4. Rox11

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    Go live there and make a difference hands on.
     
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    It's a proxy war between Iran and Saudi Arabia with the U.S. in the middle.
     
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    Would it make a different to anyone . .. . if this was happening for 'political differences' as oppose to 'religious' ones?

    Rocket River
     
  7. rudan

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    No, more than 100 people died. It would be just as bad if north Korea attacked south Korea like that.......
     
  8. Cohete Rojo

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    There is no way the iPhone replaces the desktop or laptop in the world of business. It took me the entire time I was on the the toilet to copy and paste this. But rebels have now gained another city. I wonder if we are witnessing the making of another Afghanistan.


     
  9. KingCheetah

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    There is a video out of one of the bombs going off in a mosque right as the worshipers are chanting 'death to America, death to Israel'.
     
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    Obama needs to push the reset button on the Middle East. It worked great in Russia.
     
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    Religion of peace?
     
  12. Northside Storm

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    he's just losing the regional war against Iran started by Bush II, once again proving that American military might has staying power for about 10 years and should never be viewed as a lasting solution to anything.

    net beneficiary of the war on terror: with the latest events in Yemen, friggin Iran now has influence and basically control in five Middle Eastern capitals, and is soaking up all the gratitude for fighting Da'esh while watching Shia militias commit horrendous massacres. how f**ked up is that. the reset button would be for America to give up the devil's deal of fossil fuels with Saudi Arabia and never venture into a miscalculated war ever again. fat chance of that.
     
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    peace is collateral damage.
     
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    Why would "worshippers" chant "death to ..." anywhere? What kind of religion assembles people in a place of worship to have them chant "death to ..."? Why do riots always happen after their "friday prayers"? What goes on in these mosques?
     
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    i thought we were winning in Yemen...

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    [rquoter]Trying to make sense of Barack Obama’s foreign policy has become something like a branch of Kremlinology. Opinions vary between whether the president has either cleverly set Iran against Riyadh or he has let loose all the devils in hell. Early in February, Michael Doran “a senior fellow at the Hudson Institute, a former deputy assistant secretary of defense and a former senior director of the National Security Council” wrote a long paper trying to make sense of Obama’s strategy only to reach the conclusion that the president’s objectives are secret.


    Doran tried to posit a framework consistent with the administration’s puzzling actions. At the end of his long analysis, which elicited responses from Eliot Abrams and a host of other foreign policy names, Obama’s goals seemed just as much a mystery as ever. I can hardly add to the observations of these distinguished scholars, except to suggest that the puzzle arises from the lack of any apparent numeraire, which is a fancy economic word for some means of keeping score.

    There’s no score keeping system in which Obama is making points unless that scoring system is secret and we’re just too dumb to figure it out.

    Losing Iraq, Libya, Yemen; being humiliated by Assad; and having the Taliban call the tune seems to matter not a whit to the president. Like the Black Knight in the Monty Python movie who can endure having his limbs lopped off, these events are apparently costless to the president, who serenely proclaims himself as “winning” every round though nobody knows what the game is; nobody that is, except him.

    Did America just lose everything it gave Iraq? Everything it gave Yemen? Every effort it expended in Libya?

    One gets the sense that Aden could fall to the Houthi tomorrow or Damascus be overrun the week after without shaking his confidence in the least. Whatever happens, Obama is always only one step from some final, invisible victory. He is laboring toward some deal with Tehran, like a pilgrim stumbling toward the Throne of God yet which to unschooled eyes seems like a gewgaw in a box of Crackerjack for which he is being charged an arm and a leg by some canny ayatollahs.

    There must be something there and foreign policy gurus strain their eyes and cudgel their brains trying to figure out what it is. Yet if we cast our eyes forward, it would not be surprising if the day after his stupendous “deal” nothing whatsoever changes except that Tehran goes on cheating. The great roll of drum fanfare will have culminated a low whistle like air being let out of a balloon.

    Was that it? Yup. The one thing we can be certain of is that he would take that lack of evident benefit on the day after with total equanimity, as if surprised to think anyone but rubes should want a material outcome from his diplomacy. Suppose it’s about some act of “becoming” a normal nation? Don’t laugh. Then what? That is why Michael Doran and the rest are having such trouble figuring out the administration’s game plan. Because they think it’s about something. None of them have considered the possibility that its about nothing at all.[/rquoter]



    Read more: http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2015/03/22/losing-yemen/#ixzz3V9pPJQ9L
     
  17. Remii

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    ISIS is going to help Iran become the top dog in the middle east. Create chaos to bring together unity.
     
  18. Northside Storm

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    you could always go and find out--which is more than you can say about black sites.
     
  19. KingCheetah

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    Religion of Pieces.
     
  20. AroundTheWorld

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    what?
     

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