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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by burnshroom, Oct 7, 2014.

  1. larsv8

    larsv8 Contributing Member

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    Wrong
     
  2. RoxBeliever

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    I think only Dwight misses Chandler on this team.

    And just in case Dwight is contemplating even a tiny bit leaving in FA, Morey is stacking the team with bigs who can bang. Just Plan B and C and D
     
  3. benchmoochie

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    no role player for 15 mil though.
     
  4. LabMouse

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    So, with 15 mil, I am not sure the rockets will match the Parson's offer from the Mav. even if they had Bosh first. Although media argued that the rockets would have both Bosh and Parson, but 21 mil for Bosh, and 15 mil for Parson could be too much for Les and the team.

     
  5. Fullcourt

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    Morey made his rounds on the Houston radio stations a couple days after the Bosh/Parsons fiasco and basically said we would have kept him and had the best starting 5 in the league.
     
  6. LabMouse

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    Yes, that was thing that everybody was talking about, but if you think it about, the rockets will have four players with the max, they will have no bench, and still not the best starting 5 in the league. I would think that Les would think it very hard before making an offer to Parsons. Of course, Bosh was on the team for sure, but not Parsons.

     
  7. basketballholic

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    http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q14





    14. Exactly what is included when computing total team salaries? What is cap room? What is a cap hold?

    A team's cap room (referred to simply as "room" in the CBA) refers to its ability to sign players to free agent contracts. If a team is above the cap, then its room is limited to the exceptions it possesses. If the team is below the cap, then its room is how far it is below the cap when all salaries and cap holds are included. Cap holds are "placeholders" for players the team is expected to sign in the future. For example, a team is expected to sign its unsigned first round draft pick, so an amount is reserved for this signing in the form of a cap hold. A team $10 million below the cap with $4 million in cap holds really has $6 million in room. A team $5 million under the cap with $6 million in cap holds is not considered under the cap at all, and must use exceptions to sign players. The following are included in team salary:

    Salaries of all active and inactive players, including likely bonuses.

    The full season salary of any players the team acquires in midseason trades.

    Salaries paid or payable to waived players, minus any set-off amounts, and subject to the Stretch provision (see question number 66).

    Any salary still being paid to retired players (see question number 63).

    A cap hold for amounts paid or expected to be paid in conjunction with certain grievances.

    A cap hold for salaries in contracts that have been agreed to but not yet executed (i.e., verbal agreements or agreements pending physicals). Note: During the July Moratorium (see question number 104), teams may not enter into verbal or written agreements. Therefore any agreements that are struck during the moratorium are still characterized as negotiations, and do not count toward team salary.

    A cap hold for a percentage of the previous salary of every unrenounced free agent (see question number 38).

    A cap hold for salaries offered in offer sheets to restricted free agents (see question number 44).

    A cap hold for the "scale" amount for the team's unsigned first round draft pick(s) (see question number 52). This amount begins to apply to team salary immediately upon selection in the draft1. This amount can be excluded from the team salary for the current season if, before the season starts, the team and player agree in writing that the team will not sign the player during that season.

    A cap hold called an "incomplete roster charge" if the team has fewer than 12 players (players under contract, free agents included in team salary, players given offer sheets, and first round draft picks). This charge is equal to the rookie minimum salary for each player fewer than 12. For example, if there are 11 players included in team salary, then an amount equal to the rookie minimum salary is added to the team salary2; if the roster is completely empty, then 12 times the rookie minimum salary is added to the team salary. This charge only applies during the offseason.

    A cap hold for the combined amount of any Mid-Level, Bi-Annual, Disabled Player (see question number 25) and trade exceptions (see question number 85) available to the team (see question number 26), if the team is under the salary cap. (Teams may renounce these exceptions, in which case they no longer are included in team salary.)

    Salaries for completed contracts (such as 10-day contracts) are included in team salaries for the remainder of that salary cap year (through June 30).

    They use a slightly different calculation for determining the team salary in relation to the apron -- the point $4 million over the tax line. This applies to the Bi-Annual, Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level, and Taxpayer Mid-Level exceptions (see question number 25), and for Sign-and-Trade transactions (see question number 91). For these purposes they use the team salary as defined above, with the following modifications:3

    All unlikely bonuses are included for contracts and extensions signed under the current CBA.

    Amounts that could be included in team salary as the result of certain grievances are included.

    For rookies and players with one year of experience whose salary is less than the two-year minimum salary, the two-year minimum salary is used in place of their actual salary.

    For the team's restricted free agents, the amount of any outstanding qualifying offer or first refusal exercise notice (both including unlikely bonuses), whichever is greater, are included.

    The amount of any required tenders for the team's draft picks is included (80% of the scale salary for first round picks; the rookie minimum salary for second round picks).

    Cap holds for free agents are excluded.

    Cap holds for first round draft picks are excluded.

    Cap holds for the team's outstanding exceptions are excluded.
    They do this because those exceptions and sign-and-trade transactions affect whether the team is subject to a hard cap (see question number 28), and these modifications to the team salary calculation ensure that subject teams remain below the apron.

    The following are not included in team salaries:

    The full season salary of any players the team trades away in midseason trades.

    Salaries of some players with long-term or career-ending injuries or illnesses (see question number 63).

    The "scale" amount for the team's unsigned first round draft pick(s) when the player signs with a non-NBA team. The scale amount is excluded from the team salary on the date he signs a non-NBA contract or the first day of the regular season, whichever is later. The scale amount goes back onto the team salary on the following July 1 or when his non-NBA contract ends, whichever is earlier. In other words, these cap holds are removed for players playing elsewhere during the regular season only. Scale amounts are also excluded from team salary when the team and player both agree in writing that they will not sign a contract that season.

    Salaries from summer contracts (see question number 70).

    Salaries of players selected in an expansion draft (see question number 112) and waived by the expansion team prior to the start of the season.

    Salary not paid to players due to set-off (see question number 66).
    The salaries of players waived via the Amnesty provision (see question number 69).

    For certain purposes, 50% of salary not paid to players who were suspended by the league is excluded. For example, if a player with a $10 million salary is suspended by the league for exactly half the season, then he loses $5 million, and 50% of this amount, or $2.5 million, is excluded from certain calculations including escrow and luxury tax. The team does not receive extra cap room which it can use to sign another player.

    1 The scale amount is applied immediately upon selection in the draft, but is applied to the team salary for the next salary cap year, which is the salary cap year in which a rookie scale contract can be signed. For example, as soon as a team makes a pick in the 2013 draft, the scale amount is applied to the team's 2013-14 team salary. Nothing is applied to the team's 2012-13 team salary.

    2 Since teams are required to have at least 13 players on their rosters (see question number 79), the roster charge reserves a minimum amount of cap space to sign 13 players. For example, if a team has 11 players on its roster, the roster charge reserves cap space to sign the team's 13th player, and the remainder can be used to sign the 12th player.

    3 Roster charges for empty roster spots are not excluded for apron purposes, however they are not added to replace other things that are excluded. For example, a team that has nine players under contract, two free agent cap holds and one empty roster charge is considered to have nine players under contract and one empty roster charge for apron purposes.


    Not wrong.
     
  8. Louka

    Louka Contributing Member

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    After signing, Bosh, signing Parsons has no effect on signing future free agents. Whether we re-signed Parsons or not, we would still only be able to add vet mins and other exceptions to the roster. That's the logic behind matching Parsons.

    Where have you been the last few months?
     
  9. YOLO

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    its already been known that if bosh came here, parsons would have been matched..they were willing to go all in with that core. that's nothing new.
     
  10. larsv8

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    So, that was all thing you have been told, but there is nothing to do with the final outcome. Just let me know which team has four players with the max salary.

     
  12. basketballholic

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    LOL. If you think Morey is going to bend the rules while dealing with Fegan....you don't know Morey.
     
  13. YOLO

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    why is this still being discussed..its been a topic discussed months ago.
     
  14. larsv8

    larsv8 Contributing Member

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    Um, you mean like the blatant circumvention of the Howard/Parsons arrangement.
     
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  15. rolyat93

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    Owned. RIP basketballholic.
     
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    Ummmmm. That was not circumvention.
     
  17. larsv8

    larsv8 Contributing Member

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    I hope you are joking.
     

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