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[ESPN] Hollinger - Chat Excerpts on the Trade

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  1. TechieOne

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    Link: http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/chatESPN?event_id=25127

    Here are some comments on the trade in Hollinger's Chat

    Keith, Beijing(China): Why did Rocket abandon Rafer Alston for several garbage players?

    SportsNation John Hollinger: Kyle Lowry isn't chopped liver -- he's a dynamite defender. But he's better in a transition game and struggles in the halfcourt, so that part of the equation is a bit odd. However, now Houston gets $3 million in wiggle room with next year's tax line.

    Dan (Chicago, IL): I think the Rockets won this trade: PG Kyle Lowry is better than Alston.

    SportsNation John Hollinger: In a vacuum yes. I still want to see how Lowry fits in there offensively though .. but it wouldn't be the first time they've had success with one of the Grizzlies' role players.

    Dan [via inert]: If Stein's reported deal is accurate, wouldn't Orlando have been better off just acquiring Lowry themselves? Also, the post says Cook to Houston, not Memphis.

    SportsNation John Hollinger: You are correct on Cook, and actually it would have to be that way for the #s to work. So for Memphis it's basically Lowry for a first. Interesting. I think Orlando wanted Alston more than Lowry -- especially given his history with Stan VG.

    Steve (Orlando): So How much does Alston add to the Magic? He's no Jameer Nelson but he seems like a terrific upgrade from Johnson after last night's fiasco

    SportsNation John Hollinger: Yes, at both ends. I think he guarantees Orlando reaches the second round of the playoffs, and that added playoff dough is important for a team that just had to borrow $10 million from the league.

    bob (north carolina): Is the Rockets trade a good trade?

    SportsNation John Hollinger: Thinking about how long they've been trying to get rid of Rafer and how little success they've had interesting buyers ... and to get a young PG in return, even one who's kind of rough around the edges? That's a really solid trade.

    Tian. (Toronto): Do you think that Tmac might be the reason why Rockets gave up Alston for another PG?

    SportsNation John Hollinger: Definitely. If Houston still thought it could win the West it doesn't do this deal. Instead they look toward the future with a Brooks-Lowry platoon.
     
  2. RMGEEGEE

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    Nice find.
    Interesting.. I didn't know Lowry was a good defender.
     
  3. BrooksBall

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    I don't know why he says we save $3 million in cap space next season. One site I looked at says Cook has a $3.5 million player option for next season. It also shows Lowry guaranteed for over $2 million next year.

    Are those numbers inaccurate? If not, we are actually adding a couple hundred thousand for next season.
     
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  4. Olajuwon2Yao

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    Hollinger is not the brightest analyst out there, there is much more smarter analysts then him. He really is just a person who jacks it to the numbers.

    I really wouldn't believe a word he says, just go look at his scouting reports or ask Grizzlies fans.
     
  5. yaofor3

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    i really hope this is a good pick up.
     
  6. mrfirefly7

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    So basically Morey is building the team for next season? Unless Morey can convince Artest to stay in Houston with a reasonable deal, We will still lose him for nothing this summer though.
     
  7. caffreys_irish_ale

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    I'm still confused with Cook. If we're getting Cook and he has an option for $3.5 MIL next year how does this help us?

    We have to pay more next year than we would have with Rafer and with two sub-par players.

    Morey needs to be on Radio 610 AM tomorrow to explain this trade!!!!
     
  8. cardpire

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    uh, yes it would.
     
  9. Rockets Jones

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    What he says sounds about right, the Rockets have given up on the season, the Magic have become better, Lowry is here for the future and may be a nice player but the fact that Lowry is better in a 'vacuum' is a contradicting statement but he's on the money with almost everything.... :(
     
  10. durvasa

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    What are you talking about? His scouting reports are great; I used to read his old Basketball Forecast books and they were excellent.

    Hollinger is one of the few NBA analysts out there who's opinion I value. I respect anyone who makes a concerted effort to base their opinions on facts.
     
  11. RV6

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    so you don't think they have EVER had succes with Shane?? He didn't say win a ring, but just success...
     
  12. Olajuwon2Yao

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    I mean go look at other scouting reports or ask Grizzlies fans how they feel about Lowry, I couldn't edit it so I left it as it is.

    Hollinger is not a good analyst at all, I doubt he even watches basketball games, It seems like all he does is look at the numbers and compare.

    There is nothing special about stat-junkies.
     
  13. Bandwagoner

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    No the money is the same 3.5 + 2 vs 5.25 for alston

    Is helps nothing for money.
     
  14. God's Son

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    this is dEFINITELY a morey trade: more value or bang for the buck

    people forget rox have ben tryin to trade away alston for at least a couple years now. one thing that is undisputed is that he is one of the bottom 5 starting pgs in the league

    long term the rox are better for this. alston was a subpar player who was a notorious chucker for someone whos such a crappy shooter. i will never forget his disasterous playoff showings and every year he would have these stretch of games where he played good and people buy into this fools gold thinking he turned a corner

    i liked rafer cause he played hard but he was not the answer at point, that much was CLEAR beyond a shadow of doubt

    i think people are much more dismayed that rox didnot make major move and they deflecting that anger on the rafer trade

    when we sober up with time u will realize this was a good flexibility move and that we have enough guys to cover rafer through this season

    some times getting enough flexibility is a better move than a non move
     
  15. BrooksBall

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    It's similar but Cook + Lowry make a couple hundred thousand more.

    The point is that it doesn't save money if those are accurate numbers.
     
  16. Bandwagoner

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    cook makes 3.5 Lowry makes 2 and change.

    Alston makes 5.25

    Oh right nevermind. We are saying the same thing.
     
  17. J-Wolf

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    Let's ...

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    At the end he basically says McGrady's latest move put us in rebuild mode. Lowry is 10 years younger than Alston, isn't he? So there's more potential upside. But I do believe he's a downgrade at PG for the remainder of this season. This was not supposed to be a rebuild season MF!!!!!!!!!!
     
  19. BrooksBall

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    3.5 + 2 = ?
     
  20. Bandwagoner

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    did you see my previous post I had those exact numbers?

    nevermind I'm reply happy today.


    congrats to your boy.
     

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