Egypt: Supreme Council of Armed Forces takes control before Muslim brotherhood wins

Are you saying it is bad news that they won or it is bad news that they are not immediately grabbing the power?

Do you expect the Muslim Brotherhood not to uphold the truce? Does that mean you expect them to wage war?

Are you saying that the leader of the Islamist "Muslim Brotherhood" (which is the ideological breeding ground for many terrorists worldwide) is a "true Muslim" whereas someone who does not belong to that Islamist organization is not?

 

I find this hilarious.

 

Why did the people in the middle east want with the Arab spring? I bet the most important thing on their mind at the time was to be better off than they were under the old dictatorships. Are they any closer to achieving that goal?

 

Do people really need a reason to riot? They are pissed off and want to break *****.

 

Probably so - fake elections are better than no elections at all. I think the mistake people make is thinking that an Arab Spring meant everything would be great in a year. Revolutions are complicated and ugly things. Anyone can just look at the US revolution and see the fits and starts, the failed decisions (Articles of Confederation?), the defaulting on debt, desertion of troops, etc.

This was not something that changed the Arab world overnight - it's something that will (or hopefully will) happen over years and decades. It will go through periods of chaos and corruption. Maybe it will backslide, maybe it won't. That's how revolution works.

 

Robert Fisk: Mubarak's 300,000-strong army of thugs remains in business despite elections

 

Bummer.

DD

 

At least Shafiq didnt win. Having a revolution like that and then electing Mubarak 2.0 would be so terrible.

 

I'n not very well-versed on the Egyptian election situation but multiple friends of mine seem pretty happy Morsy was elected and they have hope for a prosperous Egypt in the future. I have no comment on it since I'm not knowledgeable on this situation but I'll ask them what makes them optimistic since MB doesn't have the cleanest of track records.

 

I'm going to disagree.

I think it does matter, at least at some level. Much the same way people aggrandize the Muslim Brotherhood's political agenda, there are those who are going to take the actions of the SCAF and blow them out of proportion. In the long run, the SCAF is not a legislative solution; it is a military apparatus incapable of solving the bulk of the problems facing the Egyptian people, including the range of economic and social problems facing the nation.

Additionally, the inception of free elections in a country that's never had it before means something; It is not going to be the political ideal from day one, but I'd give it some time. I dont think the Egyptian people will accept a blatant militarization of its political apparatus (you're already seeing the outcries and calls for protests), and if the military is smart they'll see that and seek compromised positions that assuage some of the concerns of the masses while still retaining some level of political involvement. Over time that role is bound to shift more and more towards civilian rule, and depending on how things go, that could be sooner rather than later. Just my opinion....

 

It takes an implicit cultural faith to believe in democratic processes and also a peaceful transfer of power. That's something bombs and occupation can't provide.

Freedom does not imply immediate stability or prosperity. Especially with a politically rebooted nation like Egypt, it's going to take time and a lot of support. A lot of things outside of Egypt's control has to go its way as well.

 

Keeping religion out of government should be the top priority for the rest of the world.

DD

 

Yep, the Western secular governments should make it their top priority to keep religion out of any countries government.

It is in OUR best interests..as well as the people of those countries who may or may not know better because of their ignorance and lack of differing opinions....or being sheltered by their religious..leadership....

DD

 

Have you ever been outside this country?

 

Or accurately following all of the principles instead of nitpicking and creating the mess we have today. Sadly, neither will happen.

 

Sure, but that is irrelevent, it is a culture clash we have going on here. As the world shrinks due to the internet and population growth, there are people afraid of losing their power base - and are fighting back by spreading their ignorance and sheltering their people.

That never works, information will get out, people will think for themselves and religions will fail - history always repeats you know.

So, it is pretty clear that countries that are run by theocracies are a problem for the majority of the world, so the rest of the world should do everything in their power to help free those people and let them find out what true freedom is all about.

DD