Turkish Ministry of Education: 1 in 4 Turks Support Honor Killings http://www.realcourage.org/2009/03/turkey-war-on-women/ Civitas: 1 in 3 Muslims in the UK strongly agree that a wife should be forced to obey her husband's bidding http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/ShariaLawOrOneLawForAll.pdf BBC Poll: 1 in 10 British Muslims support killing a family member over "dishonor". http://www.expressandstar.com/blogs/peter-rhodes/2011/12/28/honour-killing-–-a-stain-on-our-nation/ Middle East Quarterly: 91 percent of honor killings are committed by Muslims worldwide. http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/43207 95% of honor killings in the West are perpetrated by Muslim fathers and brothers or their proxies. http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com...calling-honour-killings-by-its-rightful-name/ A survey of Muslim women in Paris suburbs found that three-quarters of them wear their masks out of fear - including fear of violence. http://www.torontosun.com/2011/12/12/muslim-women-win 1 in 5 young British Muslims agree that 'honor' violence is acceptable. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...onour-violence-acceptable-survey-reveals.html Pew Research (2013): Large majorities of Muslims favor Sharia. Among those who do, stoning women for adultery is favored by 89% in Pakistanis, 85% in Afghanistan, 81% in Egypt, 67% in Jordan, ~50% in 'moderate' Indonesia, Malaysia and Thailand, 58% in Iraq, 44% in Tunisia, 29% in Turkey, and 26% in Russia. http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFil...ims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf Pew Research (2013): Honor killing the woman for sex outside of marriage is favored over honor killing the man in almost every Islamic country. Over half of Muslims surveyed believed that honor killings over sex were at least partially justified. http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFil...ims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf (2013) Jordanian teens support honor killing. http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/20/world/meast/jordan-honor-crimes-study/ Pew Research (2011): 40% of Pakistanis says that killing a woman for family honor is often or sometimes justified. http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...of-women-can-be-at-least-sometimes-justified/
Your post indicates you are responding to apollo33: "Honor killing is not a Muslim exclusive thing" In that case, all your diligent link pasting is irrelevant (to his claim). Constructive use of time though! jk
Here's something HoneyPoser, AroundTheWorld, and Dei will be forced to admit: You're afraid of Muslims! Ha. Ha. Ha.
ATW, these type of polls continue to be posted but we have no baseline or point of reference to compare to. What percentage of Christian men in the United States believe a wife should obey a husband? The Bible explicitly states this order also. With no point of reference to have some relative metric, it's difficult to accurately analyze these polls. Also from my experience with polls, many people are capable of answering the questions in a facetious manner. Little do they know that their answers will be used as fodder for thousands of Redditors and alt-right bigots to condemn all Muslims.
You really didn't answer my question. I'll ask again. I see these polls used all the time and I'm sure you are comforted knowing that many who cite these polls to me are self avowed white supremacists. They love citing these polls. My question is what reference point do we have relative to the rest of the world? Is there a similar breadth of polling about how women should be treated using the similar polling standards for Christians or Hindus? And how do we know how serious the respondents were? How do we know a large portion were not facetious? What was the framing of the questions? For example, asking a rural villager if they want their country to be filled under Islamic values is the pretty much the same as asking a rural southern Baptist if they want to love in a Christian nation under 'God' law'. Of course they are going to answer yes.
I'm not sure what your argument is. Are you saying Christians and Hindus commit as many honor killings as Muslims? Are you trying to say that Islam has nothing to do with the evidently much higher rate of these "honor" murders among Muslims as compared to other religions? What are you trying to say?
My question is about these pew polls and other polls about Muslim opinions around the world that you have posted countless times in your BBS posting career. Do we have a reference point that will bring a relative metric to compare to other groups or else those polls are essentially meaningless.
Why do you ask about polls when we have statistics about the actual murders? And these are very, very clear: 91 % of honor killings are committed by Muslims. I ask again, are Muslims 91 % of the world's population? Do you doubt that there is a correlation between the honor murder rate and the underlying attitudes?
I'll ask again. You seem to be incapable of answering the question. If you believe the notion that Muslims are evil can stand well by itself with your 91% metric that I haven't vetted yet than fine. I'm specifically asking about these polls you post tri-anually to remind us to keep a look out for evil Muslims. What relative metric do we have in regards to polling of other entities/groups?
This thread is about honor killings. Are you disputing that most honor killings in the world are committed by Muslims? Are you disputing that Islam has something to do with these honor killings?
A thread can be about an entirely different subject but if a poster in said thread posts sources, polling, and other emperical data those references are fair game for discussion. So I'll ask again. Is there a relative metric we have for these polls on Muslim opinions around the world for other religions? How do they relate? For example, is there a credible polling source that polled how many American Christian males believe the wife ought to obey her husband?
I don't know. But I know that Christians do not kill their wives and daughters for "honor" nearly as often as Muslims do. My assumption would also be that the percentage of American Christians today who believe the wife ought to obey her husband is not very high...or maybe they believe it, but their wife will make sure they don't get away with that . Perhaps you know of such opinion polls? Doing a quick search, I only found some data on gay marriage and such things. Now I will ask again: Are you disputing that most honor killings in the world are committed by Muslims? Are you disputing that Islam has something to do with these honor killings?
