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[Driving] D Bag Driver Causes Crash

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by 713, Apr 27, 2015.

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Who's at Fault?

  1. Camaro Driver (Douche for driving reckless/DWI)

    73 vote(s)
    77.7%
  2. Pickup Truck (Douche for keeping pace with 18 wheeler)

    19 vote(s)
    20.2%
  3. 18 Wheeler (Douche for not slowing down for the two idiots)

    2 vote(s)
    2.1%
  1. RedRedemption

    RedRedemption Contributing Member

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    It causes situations like these. Open up the left lane and this wouldn't be a problem. Like seriously, let go of your ego, if you see a car in your rear view or on the side that wants to pass you for the love of god let them pass you. Brake checking is not the answer, slowing down and trapping them in not the answer.
     
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  2. DCkid

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    The guys was not brake checking and slowing him down because he was driving faster than him. He was doing it because the guy came within a few inches of side-swiping him, and then as if nearly running him off the road wasn't enough, proceeded to ride his ass and flash his lights at him. Yes, the truck driver should have got his composure after just having his life threatened by a reckless driver, and let the guy pass at the next available chance. Some people act irrationally after an adrenaline rush and the anger that comes with someone almost running you off the road. But This idea that the truck driver was just trying to teach him a lesson for speeding is imagined (most likely by people who just like to drive really fast and get butt hurt when people in front of them aren't driving as fast).
     
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  3. KellyDwyer

    KellyDwyer Contributing Member

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    Because the road is much larger than the car directly in back of you.

    Move over.

    (And nobody on this thread has gotten into what semi drivers have had to deal with. I wish someone on here could speak on their behalf.)
     
  4. Sajan

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    oh going 70mph in a 60mph...must be a racecar driver!

    but it's fine to create a bottleneck inside where no one can pass you for miles on end?
     
  5. DCkid

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    I was thinking more 85+ in a 70.

    Who even said that or did that? Again, you are imagining that there is some big problem with people driving the speed limit or slower in the left lane for "miles on end." How is that even possible? If the traffic is so bad that you can't pass someone for miles then there must be a lot of volume and nobody will be able to go way over the speed limit anyway.
     
  6. JuanValdez

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    You misunderstand what you quoted. Take a deeper look at the MIT link I provided. Some states have their own wrinkles, but there's essentially 4 kinds of rules when it comes to the left lane:
    1. Left is for passing only -- in other words, you should be going faster than traffic to be using it.

    2. Yield to faster cars -- in other words, you're fine in the left lane unless someone behind you wants to go faster, in which case you should move over and let them pass.

    3. Slow people stay right -- in other words, you can be in the left lane and go the same speed as people in the right lane (assuming the people in the right lane are going at a conventional speed). If you're slow (like because you're driving a tractor, or your vehicle is in distress, or you're a complete numbnut), then you should be in the right lane, but it doesn't matter otherwise. New York and Texas are both this sort of state.

    4. No special treatment for the left lane.

    Many people are persisting in their unfounded belief that the law says what they want it to say, that the left lane is for passing. That's not what it says in most states. The bit you quoted there is the norm, slow traffic keep right. Slow traffic does not mean slower than the guy behind you, slow means slower than the norm on the highway. Going the same speed as everyone else is acceptable in the eyes of the law of most states. I know lots of people want it to be true that its a universally accepted more of society, canonized by law and built a priori into the soul of every man that the left lane should be open to people who want to zoom by traffic, but it is just not the case. There has been some minor concession built into the law to prevent impediments to the smooth flow of traffic that people have seized on, and expanded upon, sharing this tall tale with others. The truth is that people are in your way in the left lane because it is not the socially normative behavior and its not enforced by the police because there isn't much support to do so in the legal framework. They aren't the ones being dumbasses.

    In the case of the video in the OP, there is no indication that the pickup truck was going slower than general traffic; he was only going slower than the camaro, but the camaro does not define the general speed by himself. It's possible that behind the camera-car there is a line of 50 cars all honking at them to get out of the way, in which case the pickup is in violation. But all we can see is 1 car who obviously wants to go faster. It's not even clear that the car with the camera wants to go faster.

    You didn't answer the question as to why it is INCREDIBLY dangerous. Indaface did a good job on your behalf in explaining why the resulting situation can be at least somewhat dangerous -- though the answer is that other people are foolish.
     
  7. bnb

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    Quite the opposite.

    At the start of the vid the pickup and the dashcam car pass a car on the right and are approaching the truck about to pass it. The left lane is moving faster than the right.

    The camero then passes on the right -- presumably having cut in and out of traffic, before cutting off the pickup, tailgating him, and flashing lights.

    So the camero driver:

    a) drives faster than the prevailing speed
    b) zigs in and out of traffic
    c) cuts others off nearly running them off the road
    d) tailgates
    e) is drunk
    f) tries to pass in on a gravel median
    g) drives a Camero

    Clearly the douche.
     
  8. JuanValdez

    JuanValdez Contributing Member

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    Okay, I watched it again and clearly you're right. The pickup is passing people at the beginning of the video and only moderates his speed after the camaro starts acting the fool. If there's a line of traffic behind him, it'd have to have built in the ~2 minutes between the entry of the camaro on the scene and the ultimate wreck. But, at the end of the clip, the dashcam pulls over onto the shoulder and only a weak smattering of cars pass him in the ensuing 20-30 seconds. So, there's no backup of cars, which would suggest to me that the pickup truck was not impeding traffic other than the camaro.
     
  9. Scarface281

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    Or some other folks pulped over as well.
     
  10. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    And traffic was definitely impeded after the wreck!
     

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