Donald Trump invites Russia to hack Hillary Clinton

Yes, she's guilty of that. Of course more Americans will think Hillary is dishonest. She is dishonest. And she has a much longer career of public service in which have people view that.

We agree that she's dishonest. I'm not sure what I need to give up already.

 

I hope you vote for someone else.

 

I'm voting for Clintons because she's the ******* I know.

 

Hardly. Obama 'got' Putin to do exactly what Putin wanted. If you recall, we didn't want Russia there at all.

 

Russia was already there.

Putin's hand was forced when the few rebels who wanted to do what they were trained to do by the CIA had measurable gains. Then they went boom and proxy war became half-proxy war.

There's good cause to believe that it was some other proxy (not Assad, possibly Israelis) that almost forced the President to do what he didn't want to do, which was increased American militarization of the area.

 

Your voting for the Dems because your ******* is used to it by now.

 

I am voting for Clinton because I think she is the better candidate. Based on her experience and her stances on issues of importance to me. And make so mistake... I am voting FOR her.

I look at many republicans/conservatives on this forum who spend more time talking about how bad both candidates are, and many say both candidates are so bad that they won't vote for either Trump nor Clinton. So many republicans/conservatives say they will vote third-party, or not vote at all.

Of course, that is what they are saying now. Since it is easy to say it now.

My bet is that come November, in the privacy of the voting booth, they will vote for Donald Trump. And some will come back here claiming they didn't vote for Trump, as if they are embarrassed that they voted for him, or that they don't want the blame in case he wins or the ridicule in case he loses.

But vote for him they will. Oh, they may justify it as "lesser of two evils" or "have to vote against Clinton." But its important that they are not voting "FOR" someone. That their vote has nothing to do with principles.

And sure, you can all complain that I don't know what I am writing, that I am wrong. But again, as you pull that lever for Trump, remember both you and I know you did.

 

You so clever. It'll be time for all of us to lube up no matter what levers we pull.

I don't like the tables the way they're set, but at least there still are tables. The steady trend towards fascism is disturbing, and Trump is as fascist as it can get. The first thing he could do to remove that idea is to spell out permanent plans of divesting himself of his conglomerate if he should win.

 

This is not just a mic drop- this is a sound system thud:

OPEN LETTER ON DONALD TRUMP FROM GOP NATIONAL SECURITY LEADERS

We the undersigned, members of the Republican national security community, represent a broad spectrum of opinion on America’s role in the world and what is necessary to keep us safe and prosperous. We have disagreed with one another on many issues, including the Iraq war and intervention in Syria. But we are united in our opposition to a Donald Trump presidency. Recognizing as we do, the conditions in American politics that have contributed to his popularity, we nonetheless are obligated to state our core objections clearly:

His vision of American influence and power in the world is wildly inconsistent and unmoored in principle. He swings from isolationism to military adventurism within the space of one sentence.

His advocacy for aggressively waging trade wars is a recipe for economic disaster in a globally connected world.

His embrace of the expansive use of torture is inexcusable.

His hateful, anti-Muslim rhetoric undercuts the seriousness of combating Islamic radicalism by alienating partners in the Islamic world making significant contributions to the effort. Furthermore, it endangers the safety and Constitutionally guaranteed freedoms of American Muslims.

Controlling our border and preventing illegal immigration is a serious issue, but his insistence that Mexico will fund a wall on the southern border inflames unhelpful passions, and rests on an utter misreading of, and contempt for, our southern neighbor.

Similarly, his insistence that close allies such as Japan must pay vast sums for protection is the sentiment of a racketeer, not the leader of the alliances that have served us so well since World War II.

His admiration for foreign dictators such as Vladimir Putin is unacceptable for the leader of the world’s greatest democracy.

He is fundamentally dishonest. Evidence of this includes his attempts to deny positions he has unquestionably taken in the past, including on the 2003 Iraq war and the 2011 Libyan conflict. We accept that views evolve over time, but this is simply misrepresentation.

His equation of business acumen with foreign policy experience is false. Not all lethal conflicts can be resolved as a real estate deal might, and there is no recourse to bankruptcy court in international affairs.

Mr. Trump’s own statements lead us to conclude that as president, he would use the authority of his office to act in ways that make America less safe, and which would diminish our standing in the world. Furthermore, his expansive view of how presidential power should be wielded against his detractors poses a distinct threat to civil liberty in the United States. Therefore, as committed and loyal Republicans, we are unable to support a Party ticket with Mr. Trump at its head. We commit ourselves to working energetically to prevent the election of someone so utterly unfitted to the office.



Ken Adelman
David Adesnik
Michael Auslin
Mike Baker
Christopher Barton
Kevin W. Billings
Robert D. Blackwill
Daniel A. Blumenthal
Max Boot
Ellen Bork
Anna Borshchevskaya
Joseph A. Bosco
Michael Chertoff
Patrick Chovanec
James Clad
Eliot A. Cohen
Gus Coldebella
Carrie Cordero
Michael Coulter
Chester A. Crocker
Patrick M. Cronin
Seth Cropsey
Tom Donnelly
Daniel Drezner
Colin Dueck
Eric Edelman
Joseph Esposito
Charles Fairbanks
Richard A. Falkenrath
Peter D. Feaver
Niall Ferguson
Richard Fontaine
Aaron Friedberg
Dan Gabriel
Greg Garcia
Jana Chapman Gates
Jeffrey Gedmin
Reuel Marc Gerecht
James K. Glassman
David Gordon
Christopher J. Griffin
Mary R. Habeck
Paul Haenle
Melinda Haring
Robert Hastings
Rebeccah Heinrichs
Francis Q. Hoang
Rachel Hoff
Jeffrey W. Hornung
William C. Inboden
Jamil N. Jaffer
Ash Jain
Marc C. Johnson
Myriah Jordan
Robert G. Joseph
Tim Kane
Kate Kidder
Robert Kagan
Rep. Jim Kolbe
David Kramer
Stephen Krasner

Matthew Kroenig
Frank Lavin
Philip I. Levy
Philip Lohaus
Mary Beth Long
Peter Mansoor
John Maurer
Matthew McCabe
Bryan McGrath
Richard G. Miles
Paul D. Miller
Charles Morrison
Michael B. Mukasey
Scott W. Muller
Lester Munson
Andrew S. Natsios
Michael Noonan

Tom Nichols
John Noonan
Roger F. Noriega
Stephen E. Ockenden
John Osborn
Robert T. Osterhaler
Mackubin T. Owens
Daniel Pipes
Everett Pyatt
Martha T. Rainville
Stephen Rodriguez
Marc A. Ross
Nicholas Rostow
Michael Rubin
Daniel F. Runde
Benjamin Runkle
Richard L. Russell
Andrew Sagor
Kori Schake
Randy Scheunemann
Gary J. Schmitt
Gabriel Schoenfeld
Russell Seitz
Kalev I. Sepp
Vance Serchuk
David R. Shedd
Gary Shiffman
Kristen Silverberg
Michael Singh
Ray Takeyh
Jeremy Teigen
William H. Tobey
Frances F. Townsend
Jan Van Tol
Daniel Vajdich
Ruth Wedgwood
Albert Wolf
Julie Wood
Dov S. Zakheim
Roger Zakheim
Sam Zega
Philip Zelikow
Robert B. Zoellick
Laurence Zuriff

Number of Signatories: 121

 

Don't know those chaps. Are they from Nixon's Enemies List?

 

Yes, we wanted plenty of other nations there. It wasn't 100% what we wanted because Russia supported a dictator who used chemical weapons against their own citizens. The U.S. was against that and wanted that dictator removed.

That being said the chemical weapon problem was solved, and the U.S. didn't have to invade.

 

Sep 22 2016
Feinstein, Schiff Statement on Russian Hacking
Washington—Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, and Congressman Adam Schiff (D-Calif.), ranking member of the House Intelligence Committee, today released the following statement on Russian hacking:

“Based on briefings we have received, we have concluded that the Russian intelligence agencies are making a serious and concerted effort to influence the U.S. election.

“At the least, this effort is intended to sow doubt about the security of our election and may well be intended to influence the outcomes of the election—we can see no other rationale for the behavior of the Russians.

“We believe that orders for the Russian intelligence agencies to conduct such actions could come only from very senior levels of the Russian government.

“We call on President Putin to immediately order a halt to this activity. Americans will not stand for any foreign government trying to influence our election. We hope all Americans will stand together and reject the Russian effort.”