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Do we overrate Daryl Morey?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by G-Money, Nov 10, 2010.

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Do we overrate Morey?

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  1. ChievousFTFace

    ChievousFTFace Contributing Member

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    All the deals you've stated have team options on them.

    What other talent would you have brought in with the money you talked about? Do you think Adelman pushed to bring Miller in?

    We had a max offer on the table for Bosh and didn't get him. Statistically, Scola is similar to Bosh and got paid far less.

    We turned Rafer Alston into Kyle Lowry.

    He's drafted gems late in the draft... AB (late 1st), Landry, CBud. It's too early to tell on how good PatPat is.

    We turned a broken down T-mac into a young player with upside (Hill), a huge expiring contract (Jeffries), an option to swap 1st round picks and a straight up 1st rounder in 2012.

    I think it's way too early to completely judge Morey. We have to see if he turns the trade exceptions, expirings and draft picks into a winning team.

    We also have to see how he deals with re-signing Yao and AB.
     
  2. rox81

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    Overate him? You mean they ate him too much? Ewwww.

    (I never pick on grammar and spelling, since this board isn't about that. I made one exception in this case because the misspelling changed the meaning and put DD at a 4 on the unintentional comedy scale.)
     
  3. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    He's never been a superstar. ALl-star sure but he didn't change an important game...EVER.
     
  4. JayGoogle

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    Well as I said earlier...acquiring Superstars takes some luck too.

    It seems like everyone who thinks Morey is doing an 'Okay' job think that there is just a field of superstar players growing and Morey is too lazy to travel to that field and get us one.

    Truth is, acquiring superstars takes some luck.

    Kobe fell in the Lakers lap, did not want to go to Charlotte. Wizards were crappy enough because of the Arenas thing to pick up Wall. Lakers get lucky again getting Pau...Nuggets watch as the Pistons pick Darko over Melo....
     
  5. BradMiller

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    oh i get it dats funny and cool
     
  6. BleedRocketsRed

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    So the injuries have nothing to do with the records and it is all Morey's fault? You are braindead if you believe that.

    As a GM, what mistakes has Morey made? Seriously, board members here rank him as one of the better GMs in the league and the trade/draft history only backs it up.

    He was dealt Yao and TMac with the goal to build a team around them. He did that pretty well (hell even without TMac this team had a shot against the Lakers in the 2nd round 2 years ago before Yao went down).

    TMac turned out to be a loser, turned him into expiring money/youth/picks while acquiring Kevin Martin to replace him.

    Yao is having troubles and Luis Scola is the best player on the team.
     
  7. thaGREATwall

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    Seems like the question needs to be "Do some fans overrate Carl Landry?"

    I mean come on, I liked the guy as much as the rest of you but if you can't see the Kevin Martin deal as a good trade, you are blind. The guy is one of the best pure scorers in the entire league and happens to play a position we desperately needed filled as we were trotting out Trevor Ariza to play the 2 and were getting killed for it.

    To top it off, Landry is averaging an amazing 13 ppg, 4 rbs, 0 blks, and 1 ast. Wow!!! Why would we want Martin 23 ppg (for you math wizards that is an extra 10 ppg on Landry), 2 rbs, 2 asts, and the occasional steal. Scola, who Landry would likely be taking minutes from, is averaging an incredible 23 ppg, 12 rbs, and 2 asts.

    Man, we really blew it with that trade...
     
  8. JayGoogle

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    People completely forget about that season. Morey made a legit contender around Tmac and Yao. Morey had nothing to do with Yao or Tmac going down.

    Unless maybe they think Morey should have traded Tmac and Yao for Lebron or something. I'm not sure what they were expecting. Tmac was still very much a star player going into that year.
     
  9. t_mac1

    t_mac1 Contributing Member

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    no. he's a pretty damn good GM. he knows what wins and he's trying to get that superstar. but it's hard but we remain somewhat competitive to keep the fans' interest.

    man playing v. john wall tells you what one superstar can do. we need to either trade for a john wall or draft. morey is choosing the former.
     
  10. UTAllTheWay

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    How exactly was re-signing Lowry a bad move?

    I mean, I remember that stretch last year where he was injured for 14 out of 16 games and people were so quick to say how important he was to this team and how that stretch really hurt them. Now people are complaining about re-signing him?

    Hindsight is always 20/20 I guess...
     
  11. mrjuandiego1988

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    yes, but i dont like to say it because all of u get ur feelings hurt! plus i dont like debating online its pointless! time to stop playin with numbers and start getting players with heart and the will to win! martin proves my point just numbers yet always losing!!! :mad:
     
  12. Don FakeFan

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    good individual stats. Look where Martin has led us to, 1:6.

    Landry was the clutchest player in Rockets uniform. His stats on the Kings matters nothing.
     
  13. JimRaynor55

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    Morey's one of the best GMs in the league, and AFAIK does the most work in his player evaluations. It's important to separate the GM's methods from results that are out of his control. Mitch Kupchak is not a genius because the incompetent Grizzlies handed him Pau Gasol. Danny Ainge is not a great GM because his old buddy traded him KG, and Ray Allen decided to follow along. So many GMs out there overpay for mediocre players, leaving their teams with shallow rosters and an inability to make any more positive changes.

    Even at 1-6, this Rockets team hasn't been horrible. The point differential and strength of schedule factors have already been noted. It's not Morey's fault that most of his salary has been tied up by T-Mac and Yao the past few years. Morey can't control Yao's injuries.
     
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    I was never a Morey fanboy ..... but part of it because LA is a cheap motherfu*$# b*stard that do not want to pay ltax ......

    Having assembled players during the championship season was a miracle and luck ....

    If you want to win you gotta spend, look at the fakers :mad:
     
  15. G-Money

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    Well, I just thought he was overpaid. But he is still better than Courtney Lee at this point.
     
  16. RedRedemption

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    Yes he has... no he doesn't have 20 points in 23 seconds surges. Of course not. He brings consistency. We win with him rather than without him, now that statement is questionable now, but Yao without injuries is the best center in the NBA today.
     
  17. davidxhz

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    Gm can only bring you so far, this team has got other problems, they are not playing like a team desperate to prove that they are really a contender.

    instead, they kind of think all the things will be fixed as they play more games..... they are not competing as they should, just a huge shame for us fans, that's a huge shame..
     
  18. sammy

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    adding miller negates the cost savings from the Ariza dump, right?

    seems like a bad trade-off
     
  19. G-Money

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    We also gave up T-Mac's $21 million expiring contract. Morey could have traded Landry for Martin straight up if he wanted to. We could of had Martin and sign a big time free agent.
     
  20. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    No we could not have done that.....

    We were over the cap, so losing Tmac's $21million only opened up about $7 million of cap room.

    Bima would have the actual number etc.

    DD
     

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