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DMo is on Inactive List -- Is a Suspension Coming? (Poll)

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by heypartner, Dec 8, 2016.

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Do you think DMo is about to be suspended

  1. hmm....Looks like it

    47 vote(s)
    38.2%
  2. No, he'll just stay on the Inactive List

    26 vote(s)
    21.1%
  3. More DMo Threads

    42 vote(s)
    34.1%
  4. Research What is Happening Here People

    8 vote(s)
    6.5%
  1. heypartner

    heypartner Contributing Member

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    He can be suspended for failure to report in the required 2 days. He first must be put on the Active or Inactive List. Of course, putting him on Inactive List could just be a procedural thing to keep FREN active.

    You decide. Here's the info. Tell us how you vote



    Feigen got that list from the Official Scorer's Report, which is the official list of players that the teams submit.

    here: NBA Official Scorer's Report Wednesday, December 07, 2016 Toyota Center, Houston, TX

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    From Larry Coon

    Larry Coon already made a point that DMo is considered under contract and can be disciplined

    It’s important to note here that the rules for restricted free agency say that when a team issues a first refusal exercise notice, the player and team “…shall be deemed to have entered into a Player Contract." ... and the Rockets have all the rules related to player discipline for failure to report at their disposal -- Larry Coon http://cbafaq.com/blog/?p=381

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    From the NBA Constitution

    SECTION 6
    PLAYER LISTS AND ROSTERS​

    6.05. Suspended List.

    (a) Any Player on a Team’s Active List or Inactive List may be suspended by the Member employing him or by the Commissioner for failure to discharge his contractual obligations, or for failure to comply with training schedules or other disciplinary rules or procedures.

    (c) Any Player who is suspended by his Team may be placed on his Team’s Active List or Inactive List during the term of the suspension. If a Player has been suspended by his Team for more than three (3) games, the Member may, following the third game of the suspension, transfer the Player from the Active List or Inactive List to the Suspended List and substitute a Player in his stead.
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    From the CBA

    Here is the compensation that can be removed from the contract. It reads like a Suspension is not necessary, his refusal to render services is enough.

    ARTICLE VI
    PLAYER CONDUCT
    Section 1. General.

    ... when a player fails or refuses, without proper and reasonable cause or excuse, to render the services required by a Player Contract or this Agreement, or when a player is, for proper cause, suspended by his Team or the NBA in accordance with the terms of such Contract or this Agreement, the Current Base Compensation payable to the player for the year of the Contract during which such refusal or failure and/or suspension occurs may be reduced (or, in the case of a suspension, shall be reduced) by 1/110th of the player’s Base Compensation for each missed Exhibition, Regular Season or Playoff game.
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    Here Coon is pointing what appears to be a 30-day time bomb. Reads like DMo can pack his bags and go fishing in January, and not get credit for the season, if he's still holding out.

    Further From Larry Coon

    And it could get worse for him. The CBA also says a player shall not receive credit for a year of service for any year in which he “…withholds playing services called for by a Player Contract or this Agreement for more than thirty (30) days after the Season begins.” -- Larry Coon http://cbafaq.com/blog/?p=381
     
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  2. DonKnock

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    His ass is Lithuanian grass. And Morey needs to cut the yard one more time before hanging it up for winter
     
  3. flamingdts

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    D-Mo is about to show the world he is on Royce White's level.

    Whereas Royce White was trying to draw attention to mental health issues in sports, D-Mo is trying to draw attention to the lack of reading comprehension in sports.

    I expect BJ Armstrong will push for players' rights to not understand CBA or contracts, instead using simple gestures like "gut feelings" or "but like, come on can we just have this thing added to the contract as well please?" in order to reach agreements.
     
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  4. dragonwill

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    First !!! :D
    Another Dmo thread continue
     
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  5. Bravoexo

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    Hopefully they've already gauged who was at fault first... DMo or BJ, so that to completely burn bridges here... I'm gonna think if a suspension does happen, it's DMo's fault, and it's finally apparent he doesn't want to be in Houston,really. (highly unlikely since he didn't get offers or entertained one prior to the NETs)... If anything else happens, its the Wasserman group trying to save face here...hoping DMo won't just drop them because of how his offer sheet signing was incorrectly interpreted or negotiated for him.
     
  6. don grahamleone

    don grahamleone Contributing Member

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    I'm such an idiot, I thought research was the right idea. I'm clearly in the minority which means I didn't even get my grade 10.
     
  7. Tha_Dude

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    Somebody needs to call Dmo and let him know he's on the inactive list because I can guarantee you BJ didn't.,

    While you're at it, let him know like he has a physical to attend, man.
     
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  8. heypartner

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    Added another Clause to the OP from the CBA detailing Compensation at risk, plus just to show how it stresses once again that refusal to render services is written all over this CBA, NBA Constitution and in the Uniform Player Contract itself.
     
  9. ThatBoyNick

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    I think Rockets give him(andBJ) one last chance to blink before they throw him into unpaid limbo.

    Let's see how low, the BJ and Dmo can go.
     
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    His punishment must be more severe.
     
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    I wish i could have voted for all the poll options
     
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    8 out of 10 threads on Clutchfans.net is DMO thread
     
  13. xtruroyaltyx

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    So after three games of being suspended the Rockets can get another roster spot?
     
  14. heypartner

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    Oh, it can get much worse. [Below added to OP]

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    Here Coon is pointing what appears to be a 30-day time bomb. Reads like DMo can pack his bags and go fishing in January, and not get credit for the season, if he's still holding out.

    From Larry Coon

    And it could get worse for him. The CBA also says a player shall not receive credit for a year of service for any year in which he “…withholds playing services called for by a Player Contract or this Agreement for more than thirty (30) days after the Season begins.” -- Larry Coon http://cbafaq.com/blog/?p=381
     
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  15. snowconeman22

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    That section 3 looks harsh, but upon closer inspection the team only has that level of control 30 days after the start of the LAST season covered by his contract.

    Since DMO's deal is a 4 year deal that means we couldn't invoke that punishment for a long time.... UNLESS the CBA means the last Guaranteed year in which case he is in big poo poo soon. BUT given that Coon's reports doesn't expressly state this, I'm going to assume it means at the start of year 4 of the contract. And God help us all if we are still waiting for a resolution then.
     
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    First page on a dmo thread this is the most exciting day of my life. I want to send a shout out to all those sources of inspiration that made me the man I am today.
     
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    That's how I read it too.

    Itd be an odd rule - ONLY about a LAST season of any contract - and no other season. Why so specific on just a long holdout only at beginning of a FINAL year, like it cant happen at ANY time lol? Gonna need clarification on the word "Last", on why its in that rule.
     
  18. coachbadlee

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    I'm hoping they just part ways so that he can play somewhere this seaon.
     
  19. heypartner

    heypartner Contributing Member

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    Coon's CBA quote says nearly the same thing, but he ellipses it out. For him to pull that specifically for his DMo article means the 30 days is in play.

    I'll try to get clarification.
     
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  20. heypartner

    heypartner Contributing Member

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    Clarification. Coon quotes is about any season, the 30 days means that the one nullified doesn't count towards tenure or completion of a year of a term....it's like it never happened. That other quote is about the specific last season prior to Player becoming a free agent. I deleted it from the OP.
     
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