https://wwjnewsradio.radio.com/arti...gathers-at-capitol-to-protest-stay-home-order Conservative Michiganders have taken to the roads to cause gridlock in Lansing around the hospital. Waving Trump flags and wearing MAGA hats these buffoons are out there protesting social distancing orders and preventing at least one ambulance from going to the hospital. Of course the whole thing is the brain child of Michigan Conservative Coalition and the Michigan Freedom Fund, a DeVos family-linked conservative group. For reference Michigan has almost double the deaths from COVID compared to California despite a quarter of the population.
Either they’re mad they can’t plant flowers and fish or it’s just an impromptu Trump rally. My money is on the latter.
For the record you can still buy seeds in Michigan, but not at big box stores. Instead need to go small shops because of the way the order is written.
If they're blocking ambulances from going to the hospital, they should all be arrested. I don't mind protests, but if you're actively blocking medical care, you should be jailed and charged.
I agree with this. I am glad these people want to work instead of milking the gov but that is unacceptable.
It's stuff like this why I worry we might see violence at some point. I understand people are angry and frustrated. I'm angry and frustrated at times and I'm in far better shape economically than a lot of people. With people showing up armed and being fed rhetoric about willing to sacrifice their lives "blood of tyrants and patriots" etc.. Things could get out of hand.
Some in right-wing media egg on protests Some right-wing media personalities are encouraging Americans to protest stay-at-home orders, arguing it is time to start to re-open the economy. Fox News host Laura Ingraham on Wednesday tweeted approvingly of people in Michigan demonstrating against Gov. Gretchen Whitmer's order. "Time to get your freedom back," Ingraham declared. "Soon Marylanders, Virginians, etc will stand for their right to work, travel, assemble, socialize and worship? Massive long lasting damage is piling up day after day as many 'experts' continue to get the virus analysis wrong," Ingraham wrote in another tweet. Ingraham wasn't the only Fox personality to express such a sentiment. Jeanine Pirro told Sean Hannity Wednesday night that the health officials "overblew what was going to happen in terms of the number of people who were going to die" and now are telling people to stay home. "No," she said. Pirro later added, "The American spirit is too strong and Americans are not going to take it. And what happened in Lansing, [Michigan], today, God bless them, it's going to happen all over the country." Fox also spent the day spotlighting the protests. It was the top story on FoxNews.com for a fair amount of time, with the headline, "NO TO THE 'NANNY STATE.'" And it received airtime on shows where hosts appeared to somewhat agree with the protesters. Outside Fox, others in right-wing media have also started speaking out. A prominent Infowars host is organizing a Texas rally for later this week. “Are we in martial law right now?" the host asked Wednesday. "Because we’re acting like it." The far-right blog The Gateway Pundit framed the protests as people protesting a "tyrannical governor" who had implemented "police state policies." And Candace Owens tweeted this week she was going to the grocery store every day, expressing outrage at the fact that she was asked to wear a mask. "WTF is going on?" Owens wondered. https://view.newsletters.cnn.com/me...jEzqgm3paFvZyeM87mLaAXg==&bt_ts=1587008324712
More and more evidence that the GOP is becoming more and more of a death cult. America cannot be successful in "re-opening" the government if 30% of the population is hell bent on not adhering to public health safety measures just to prove a point, and because they welcome counteracting measures that will lead to mass death. At this point, the virus is mostly in the minds of these sick individuals who are rooting on mass death because they think it helps them. Honestly one of the worst things that has been reported was how African Americans are far more susceptible to the virus. I think the right saw that and thought "hell yeah... this might be good for us".. although they'll never admit it... well some might. Not surprising that Hitler actually got his ideas from America who has always had this dark undercurrent of death cult mentality. Back in the day it was the KKK. Now its becoming more and more mainstream GOP egged on by Fox so-called News and the president.
Is it selfish for a father to protest an order that has cost him his job and deprived him of his ability to provide for his family? Is it selfish to protest ALL of society being locked down for a virus that has a fatality rate of 0.1% for those under 60 y/o and healthy? This virus has largely impacted the elderly, the obese, and those with MAJOR health problems linked to cardiovascular health and lungs. We need to protect these people, but we can't destroy the country in the process. This virus impacts certain populations differently than others - population density matters a lot. Dense urban areas need to take different precautions than rural Nebraska. But it's important to have many voices in this debate. Our civil liberties have been absolutely trampled on, during this crisis. If someone told you a year ago that they wanted Trump to do a nation-wide lockdown of society, you'd erupt in anger. Now people are actively advocating for this. We need to take a step back, re-assess the predictive models which have failed us (all overestimated the threat), and START to reopen society while taking protective measures linked to distancing and hygiene.
Not a peep from these turds about Trump's wasted February or Trump's declaration of "total authority". We could have been South Korea or Germany. Instead, almost 27,000 Americans have died with COVID-19 since March 1, in part due to our later start to our mitigation techniques. Imagine if the White House had focused on this in February and we had tests available. I am surprised that their new message is to risk the lives of the elderly, the infirm, and the otherwise healthy people who are dying to "re-open America" and probably to "own the libs".
Okay, I can tell you aren't being a troll here and you genuinely believe this. So I'm going to ask you to for once open your mind on this message board because I think this is important and serious. The issue isn't the mortality rate of Covid-19. The issue is a combination of the hospitalization rate and the infection rate of the virus. The combination of those two things without any distancing measures in place would result in the collapse of our healthcare system as we would run out of ICU beds and medical proffesionals to the point where doctors and nurses would have to resort to triaging patients and making tough decisions on who deserves to get any treatment and who doesn't. This will result in many people even with full health insurance coverage being denied treatment or set back in a long que after sustaining a illness or injury that has nothing to do with the virus. Can you accept that this is a gravf genuine concern and this is why leaders and medical proffesionals still want social distancing in place. It isn't some grand consipracy to install martial law. It's from a genuine place. Now it's up to you to accept or deny that this is a genuine concern.
It IS selfish. If anything, implement universal basic income for the next two months and ramp up testing production and manufacturing. DHS has guidance for what is to remain open and it's pretty generous: Supermarkets and grocery stores Big-box stores Pharmacies Convenience stores and discount stores Garbage collection Healthcare operations Daycare centers Hardware stores Gas stations and auto-repair shops Banks Post offices and shipping businesses Veterinary clinics and pet stores Farmers' markets and food banks Businesses that provide necessities to shelters and economically disadvantaged people Educational institutions, for the purposes of facilitating distance learning Agriculture and food processing Warehousing, storage, and distribution Transportation, including airlines, taxis, rideshare programs, and vehicle rentals Businesses that allow essential businesses to operate Business that cater to social entertainment are and should be closed. So restaurants for dining, bars, movie theaters, and sports all are shut down. Restaurants can still provide take out and delivery, bars can sell liquor. Classrooms and educational services are being converted to digital delivery with varying success. Demand is down because people are afraid. You cannot push a string to get demand to spring back until the infrastructure is in place to safely mass test, we have an effective treatment or we have a vaccine. This WILL end and things WILL go back to normal. But it's not going to be in April. It's only been a month.
These right wing media numb nuts should be walking their talk. They should be out there leading these protests in person or STFU.
The poster above says the fatality rate for the coronavirus is 0.1% for those under 60, which I have not seen before. Here is something from about a month ago, so I'm not sure how valid it is anymore. I've mostly seen the overall fatality rate being somewhere around 3%. It's higher in some places such as Louisiana. Also, for a while in early April, coronavirus was the leading cause of death per day in the United States. Now, some experts are saying that it will drop to 970 per day by May 1, which will still make it the second or third leading cause of death, I believe. Still pretty high, no? Anyway, it's just really too bad some people perceive this debate as a choice between the economy and the lives of the sick and the elderly. With some preventive measures, including taking it more seriously as a medical emergency from the start, so much of this could have been avoided IMO, both in terms of casualties and the economic damage. Instead, it was allowed to fester until it became a greater problem. But if some people continue to deny its validity, or worse use it for financial or political gains, I'm afraid the suffering is bound to continue for longer than it should.
You are just a moron. Without social distancing, the healthcare system will quickly be overwhelmed and we would be like sweden who have a current death rate of >10% per confirmed infected case. That in oftself will create a worse panic and ecomic shutdown than what we have now. If you want to reopen the economy then get your idiot to do the things needed (like pervasive testing and equipping hospitals) to make it possible, instead of fooling around and seeking his own selfish interests. So far he has been wasting most of the time bought with the social distancing and instead wasting our time getting his name printed on CDC guidelines and on stimulus checks - guess those are what is important to him.
Protest all they want, but keep that social distancing. 6ft apart. If they can't do that in a protest, how are the politicians to trust they can do that at work?
