1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Derek Carr

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by mugrakers, Dec 17, 2013.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. rezdawg

    rezdawg Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2000
    Messages:
    18,351
    Likes Received:
    1,148
    Well, not really fair when his entire team is overmatched...It would be like giving an NFL QB a college offensive line and college level skill positions...and then facing an NFL defense.

    You can only really evaluate so much when the entire surrounding team is getting outmatched and outplayed.
     
  2. SWTsig

    SWTsig Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2002
    Messages:
    13,938
    Likes Received:
    3,533
    That's one helluva a cop out. Plenty of "inferior" teams have beat stacked teams in the past w/ solid qb play... Bridgewater vs Florida comes to mind.
     
  3. rezdawg

    rezdawg Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2000
    Messages:
    18,351
    Likes Received:
    1,148
    How is that a cop out? Carr didnt play a great game...but he didnt hurt his team in a game where they were clearly outmatched. I mean, Fresno gives up almost 400 yards of offense to USC in the first half...it's not like USC was worried about the run at all after that point. USC just focuses on playing the pass the 2nd half...which leaves very little room to do anything. That's why you see the check downs, because you're going against a much superior defense that is already expecting the pass in the first place.

    Also, that's why Bridgewater is the consensus #1 ranked QB in this draft.
     
  4. SkyrimOwnsAll

    SkyrimOwnsAll Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2012
    Messages:
    3,395
    Likes Received:
    42

    Carr had a bunch of overthrows, and his recievers made some adjustments to his underthrows... the td in the 3rd quarter comes to mind....

    Bridgewater went up againist a better defense last year, and schooled them, sometimes great qb play can neutralize and frustrate a team with superior athletes

    btw im not that high on bridgewater, but he is miles better than carr
     
  5. Ericstocracy

    Ericstocracy Member

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2012
    Messages:
    934
    Likes Received:
    115
    Carr's biggest flaw is his footwork. He has terrible footwork. It's very noticeable even with the full speed of the game. His drop back stride is short and fidgety. He shuffles and hops alt as while. Also throws of the back foot way too much. He also gets happy feet under pressure. Have seem him lay down before a sack countless times. Reminds me of David and Schaub.

    He's got talent, but he'll need a lot of work to do well in the NFL.
     
  6. Ericstocracy

    Ericstocracy Member

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2012
    Messages:
    934
    Likes Received:
    115
    Jesus, I should proof read before I post next time. Typing with a broken finger just destroyed that post.
     
  7. NickKent

    NickKent Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2012
    Messages:
    1,370
    Likes Received:
    303
    He sucked today.
     
  8. Rip Van Rocket

    Rip Van Rocket Contributing Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2002
    Messages:
    7,152
    Likes Received:
    356
    Can you just imagine the uproar by Texans fans if the Texans made him the first player picked in the draft.:grin:
     
  9. BetterThanI

    BetterThanI Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2007
    Messages:
    4,181
    Likes Received:
    381
    By that same logic, his stats this year must have been artificially inflated by playing clearly inferior teams. You can only evaluate so much when the entire surrounding team is getting undermatched and underplayed.

    Great players up their game against heavy competition. Carr did the opposite: he withered in the spotlight. Pass.
     
  10. rezdawg

    rezdawg Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2000
    Messages:
    18,351
    Likes Received:
    1,148
    Well, yeah, a reason why his numbers are what they are is because when he has a weak team going up against another weak team, he's clearly the best player on the field...that's why when his team has been playing a team of equal caliber, they have had good results.

    I wouldnt put much stock into one game...I dont think he withered at all...he just didnt play well enough to overcome the deficit in talent Fresno St had on both sides of the ball.

    In 1997, the Vols had a chance at the national championship and Peyton Manning couldnt get it done...they lost 42-17, completely choking. Manning threw for 134 yards...People have bad games, it happens to the best of them.
     
    #90 rezdawg, Dec 21, 2013
    Last edited: Dec 22, 2013
  11. J.R.

    J.R. Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2008
    Messages:
    107,591
    Likes Received:
    156,602
    Derek Carr would love to be drafted by Texans

    ...

    ...

    Carr will be disappointed if he’s still on the board when the Texans lead off the second round with the No. 33 overall pick. But he’s fully open to becoming the second Carr to QB the Texans. If David’s former team trades down via its No.1 overall selection and Derek’s still on the board when the Texans hold a later pick, the kid who grew up following the Texans will eagerly join them.

    “If I am (available in the second round), they’re going to get even more of a chip on my shoulder than there already is,” Carr said. “Absolutely: I’d love to play for the Texans. They have a great team. They have a great offensive line — one of the best tackles in the game (in Duane Brown). I’ve thrown to Andre (Johnson) before, so the timing should be OK.”​
     
  12. HTown_DieHard

    HTown_DieHard Member

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2013
    Messages:
    4,050
    Likes Received:
    94
    hahahahahaha!!!

    this is funny considering Derek was talking smack about the Texans not too long ago.

    Sorry Derek, "Seat's Taken!!" (By Teddy Bridgewater tyvm) :grin::grin::grin:
     
  13. endoftheworld

    endoftheworld Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2014
    Messages:
    1,982
    Likes Received:
    41
    Would be an unmitigated disaster, would rather have Manziel than Carr. Geno Smith 2.0 with even worse pocket presence
     
  14. Remii

    Remii Member

    Joined:
    May 29, 2013
    Messages:
    7,622
    Likes Received:
    106
    No thanks... And for no other reason that he's David Carr's lil brother.
     
  15. endoftheworld

    endoftheworld Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2014
    Messages:
    1,982
    Likes Received:
    41
    More than withered, the second he got hit he folded up like a cheap suit
     
  16. Commodore

    Commodore Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2007
    Messages:
    31,070
    Likes Received:
    14,636
  17. msn

    msn Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2002
    Messages:
    11,726
    Likes Received:
    2,093
    that's a beautiful pass. are those all 3rd stringers? (please forgive the ignorance of OAK and SEA rosters)
     
  18. supergokuken

    supergokuken Rookie

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2007
    Messages:
    192
    Likes Received:
    0
    [​IMG] So now can we get VY NOW
     
  19. Rocket River

    Rocket River Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 1999
    Messages:
    61,691
    Likes Received:
    29,086
    He eyed him all the way. The Lineback rolls back a bit might have had a pick
    [i know the LB was shadowing the RB coming out the back field but . .. ]

    Rocket River
    I ain't mad at it
     
  20. likestohypeguy

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2009
    Messages:
    3,726
    Likes Received:
    1,761
    pointy elbows 2/10
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now