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Deadspin - Report: World Series Baseballs Are Too Slick To Throw A Good Slider

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Huricane, Oct 29, 2017.

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  1. Huricane

    Huricane Contributing Member

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    Hat Tip to Mr.Scarface who orginally posted the links

    Deadspin - Report: World Series Baseballs Are Too Slick To Throw A Good Slider
    https://deadspin.com/report-world-series-baseballs-are-too-slick-to-throw-a-1819951846

    Sports Illustrated - Historic World Series Home Run Rate may be Result of Slicker Baseballs
    https://www.si.com/mlb/2017/10/29/w...-verlander-yu-darvish-ken-giles-kenley-jansen

    This was originally in the "do you trust Ken Giles" thread, but since this is a separate topic, I thought it deserved its own thread.

    The articles basically state that the baseballs used in the playoffs are too slick to throw a slider and are also the reason for the larger number of home-runs versus previous world series'.

    The slicker balls effected Ken Giles and Yu Darvish more since they rely on and a larger percentage of their pitches are sliders.

    If the article above is correct, which it appears to be since both the Dodgers and Astros confirm what is in the article, it means that any pitcher that relies on a slider should not be on the mound throwing.
     
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    Daddy Long Legs H- Town Harden

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    Well if we end up in a game 7 we gotta capitalize on any darvish innings lmao
     
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    Unconscionable that MLB let this happen.
     
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  4. Huricane

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    I don't follow the Astros as closely as the Rockets, but was wondering what other pitchers on the Astros and Dodgers would this effect?

    What pitchers throw a larger percentage of sliders?
     
    #4 Huricane, Oct 29, 2017
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    Do we need to break out the asterisk on this World Series?
     
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    Fan favorite, Giles
     
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    How is it effecting sliders and not curves ?

    Both pitches require a good grip and wrist snap .

    Darvish's pitches were definitely flat , but there could be more than the baseball influencing that .

    No excuse for Kenny G
     
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    Ken Giles still sucks tho
     
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    TBH, would rather watch a game dominated by big hitting rather than good pitching. Last night's game was unbelievable.

    This will hurt Giles career more than Darvish. Plus, there's just no denying that Giles has sucked long before these slick balls
     
    #9 TMac'n, Oct 30, 2017
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    Slick balls aside, I haven't seen a team with balls this big since 94 Rockets were totin' them around with a wheelbarrow.
     
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    If we win? Yes. Jordan wasn't playing.
     
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    And Gurriel is.
     
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    Curves are all about the ring finger on the seems.

    Slider grips vary. Some pitchers grip the slider like a curve; some do not.
     
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    I guess you missed the regular season

    SMH
     
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    I don't give a **** what he did in the regular season. Even then, he wasn't superb by any means. He has been abysmal in the post season.

    He has actually been trash in the playoffs since he got here.
     
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  18. MrBear1

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    He has sucked lately but was really quite good in the regular season.

    I guess you (like many) just started to follow this team.
     
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    He was a top 5 closer in the regular season. No way I put him in during the WS in a save situation especially with the slick baseballs
     
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    The dryer air in Los Angeles should help. :confused:
     
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