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David Carr should be traded..........

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Bag0b0y, Oct 15, 2006.

  1. ima_drummer2k

    ima_drummer2k Contributing Member

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    Another great game by Carr today against a pretty good J-ville defense.

    25-34 for 73.5%, 224 yds, 2 TDs, 0 INTs, only 1 sack.
     
  2. JeopardE

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    Shellshocked enough to have a 97.9 passer rating through six games against some of the toughest teams in the NFL. Trade Carr now!
     
  3. DonnyMost

    DonnyMost be kind. be brave.
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    I'm grinning so hard I'm about to crap my pants.
     
  4. Nick

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    Matt Leinart came down to earth against the Raiders... my hopes for an 0-16 team are over.
     
  5. rhester

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    I admit I was wrong about David Carr. I have been critical of his leadership, playmaking, timing on passes, and reading of defenses.

    1. He definately made plays at his position yesterday. The boot's were very effective. The decision making improved. Making plays as a QB is what sustains drives and scores touchdowns.
    2. He showed poise and execution was crisp which is a sign of leadership. Raising his own play up a notch affected the whole offense, this is what a leader does.
    3. Although he still locked in on receivers the execution of plays allowed him to make key completions.
    4. He threw vertically to AJ which is a key to making big plays.

    All in all Carr finally surpassed the 'statistical' success and performed at a level that results in leading the team to a win. He was definately the MVP of the game and he just kept completing big plays and executing the offense.

    He responded well to the rush and he did not force passes and he did not botch plays with mindless fumbles. If he continues to improve and play at this level, making plays and executing his position he will lift the entire team. If he plays consistently at this level he will become a very good QB.

    His play- good sound execution- opened up the running game in the 2 nd half.

    This is also the first time in a very long time I have seen him step it up a notch after a so-so first half. He came out and played a very good 2 nd half.

    Thank you so much Mr. Carr for making me eat my words. You looked like a playmaker out there yesterday.

    Keep it up and we can win possibly 5 more games. I would be very surprised with 7-8 wins.
     
  6. Uprising

    Uprising Contributing Member

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    Stats don't lie....

    Code:
    Rank	Player	        Team	Yds	Att	Cmp	TDs	Ints	Long	Rating
    1	Peyton Manning	IND	1620	206	131	12	2	51	103.2
    [b]2	David Carr	HOU	1217	172	121	9	4	53	97.9[/b]
    3	Damon Huard	KC	1163	163	104	7	1	78	96.7
    4	Philip Rivers	SD	1330	187	124	9	3	57	96.3
    5	Chad Pennington	NYJ	1450	190	125	9	6	71	91.3
    6	Carson Palmer	CIN	1418	196	122	9	4	51	90.9
    7	Tom Brady	NE	1226	189	106	10	3	35	86.9
    8	Byron Leftwich	JAC	1159	183	108	7	5	51	79.0
    9	J.P. Losman	BUF	1314	197	122	6	6	56	78.9
    10	Culpepper	MIA	929	134	81	2	3	52	77.0
    11	Roethlisberger	PIT	1045	143	87	5	7	50	74.5
    12	Charlie Frye	CLE	1188	201	124	6	10	75	67.3
    13	Joey Harrington	MIA	912	146	86	3	7	44	64.1
    14	Steve McNair	BAL	915	169	95	5	7	38	64.1
    15	Jake Plummer	DEN	984	169	88	4	7	83	60.4
    16	Vince Young	TEN	512	99	47	3	4	28	56.5
    Yep let's trade Carr......
     
    #306 Uprising, Oct 23, 2006
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  7. msn

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    No, but they can be used to lie. Stats give an incomplete picture. VERY incomplete. In this case, I concur with your premise that the stats bear out the DCarr is improved this year. But no way in hell is he better than Tom Brady. Stats must be tempered with observation (real stuff, not "he looks lost out there") for a really good picture to be painted.

    During yesterday's game, several times I heard commentary about how well DC was reading the defense, good decisions he was making, etc. (Of course, that defensive *had* to be easier to read than most considering the injuries and all, but I'll take it!) That's the kind of stuff, coupled with the stats, that tell the objective thinker that DC turned in a decent performance yesterday.
     
  8. Hey Now!

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    funny, the qb rating is often denounced for not being an accurate representation of what's REALLY happening on the football field (a theory many carr detractors are fond of), and yet, notice how, among these 16 qbs, the rating and the team's record are very often in sync:

    01. manning (6-0)
    02. carr (2-4)
    03. huard (3-1 as starter)
    04. rivers (4-2)
    05. pennington (4-3)
    06. palmer (4-2)
    07. brady (5-1)
    08. leftwich (3-3)
    09. loseman (2-5)
    10. culpepper (1-4 as starter)
    11. roethlisberger (1-4 as starter)
    12. frye (1-5)
    13. harrington (0-2 as starter)
    14. mcnair (4-2)
    15. plummer (5-1)
    16. young (1-1)

    79.2 is considered "average;" everyone above that mark (#'s 1-7) are a combined 28-13; leftwich, at 79.0, is right on the “average” and his team is 3-3; everyone below "average," (#'s 9-16) are a combined 15-24.

    carr (2), mcnair (14) and plummer (15) are the only discrepancies, but a quick check of the stats underscores the importance of a good-to-great supporting cast.

    denver's 5th in rushing ypg, 4th in overall D and 1st in points allowed per game. baltimore is 2nd in overall D and 4th in points allowed per game. do either of these teams NEED their qb to be thriving?

    by contrast, houston ranks 30th in rushing ypg, 31st in overall defense, and 28th in points allowed per game. denver and baltimore COMBINED have allowed fewer points per game than the houston D (21.1 to 25.7).
     
  9. Uprising

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    Exactly, that being said.....Carr's one of the only few bright spots on this team. The others off the top of my head, Ryans, AJ, and prehaps Williams.

    Imagine where the Texans would be if he had a running game to support him, or a defense to back him up. We already have our QB who is excelling.

    Now if he had a supporting cast that could put up some decent numbers.....
     

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