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D'Antoni please start Tucker at the 4, bench Anderson

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Dash, Oct 5, 2017.

  1. BigggReddd

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    BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA DID YOU WATCH HIM **** ON RYNO FIRST PRESEASON GAME?
     
  2. Reeko

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    How could anyone say that swapping Ryno with Melo would have been a neutral or negative affect on our offense? Smh, Melo at the 4 would've been a clear upgrade over Ryno and made us a better overall team with a higher ceiling. Ariza and Gordon for Melo? No. Ryno+filler for Melo? Hell yeah.

    CP3
    Harden/Gordon
    Ariza/Tucker
    Melo/Moute
    Capela/Nene

    that would've been perfect...Scott Perry's arrival ruined everything
     
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  3. theh

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    Can we just cut Ryan? He robbed us so bad.
     
  4. roslolian

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    Nobody is denying he has value on this team, the problem is for 20M his "threat" vs the threat of an MLE stretch 4 is comparable.

    How much do other stretch 4s make in the league? IIRC they have hit record lows because teams see them all playing like **** in the playoffs. Ppat, Speights, Brandon Wright, Frye, Tucker, Morris etc. All these guys are making a fraction of Anderson's salary. If we got rid of him we could probably afford our 3rd star+still get another stretch 4 on the cheap.
     
  5. roslolian

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    Yeah but its 7M vs 20M so its not a big deal with Lin and Asik. Its a Kelvin Cato signing and I think the reason they gave him so much money is based on analytics anderson was supposed to break out and be an offensive star. He scored 16 pts 40% 3 pt shooting in a half court offense with no other shooter so their analytics probably projected 18+ pts on a team with MDA offense and James Harden. Too bad Anderson's performance defies all logic, common sense and probabilities.
     
  6. Dash

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    Start Tucker, his defense along side Ariza/ Paul gives us so much damn versatility
     
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    Anderson is a better shooter than ALL those guys. Now on the flipside, those guys are probably better in all the other areas. But as far as 3pt SHOOTING, I'd take Anderson over just about any stretch 4 outside of Love/Melo. Since the Rockets rely so heavily on 3pt shooting Anderson's value on this team has more weight than any other team. Is he worth 20M? No he is not. But his value on this team is valuable with his skillset
     
  8. Balldon'tlie

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    He's also getting 20 million a year. You would shut up and play, just like he is.
     
  9. roslolian

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    While Anderson is technically a better shooter he also has more variance than other stretch 4s as you can see by his home/away splits last year. So while Anderson can indeed say he is better at shooting he also has a lot more risk than somebody like Tucker because Tucker will shoot his average % more consistently than Anderson AND the other areas of his game like defense and rebounding will always be there.

    Basketball is a total sum game, there are multiple ways to win a game so while the Rox do depend on 3 pt shooting its wrong to just look at the one aspect Anderson is superior and ignore everything else. Sure you'd take Anderson over Tucker on 3 pt shooting. How about as an overall player in the team? Tucker+Luc+12M capspace or Anderson by himself?

    Also werent you one of the guys complaining about how 1 dimensional the Rox are? Anderson is the single biggest reason why the Rox live and die by the 3, we have 1/5 of the capspace tied to Anderson who obv can't do anything else. So you kinda talk 2 ways out of your mouth you complain about the Rox just beinng 1 dimensional but then you praise the biggest anchor weighing the Rox down.

    Again nobody on the board said Anderson isn't valuable, but his value is probably 7M at most. Like if Anderson was a FA last season after his horrible performance you think he'd get 10M? Lol. Ppat got like 4M a year and he didn't even choke in the playoffs.
     
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    The Anderson brigade thinks he is a superstar and is so good he doesn't even need to shoot the ball to get wins for the team.

    People who think its Harden who actually gets Anderson open are so wrong. Anderson is such a threat magnet that teans prioritize him over Harden and thats why Harden can play like an MVP. As we have seen the past 6 games, Luc and Tucker don't provide the space that Anderson does, its not the same at all. How can Melo ever compete with that?
     
  11. RHU525

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    The Anderson situation is just hard to replicate. He was not overpaid at the time he signed the contract because the salary cap spiked and teams were throwing money left and right. See Alan Crabbe..

    If we don't sign Ryno, Rockets do not win 57 games and get 3rd seed and therefore we would not have Chris Paul and the whole Melo to Houston rumor never happens. You can't be mad at him for us not getting Melo because if we never signed him we would have no shot at Melo in the first place.
     
  12. cheke64

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    He's like a draymond green.
     
  13. hakeemthagreat

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    Yep. But as we know, athletes aren't known to "shut up" when a team openly dangles them out for trade bait.
     
  14. mockster

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    Ryan Anderson may be the most useless basketball player in the league for what he's paid.

    All anyone has to do is stay tight on him and he's got no game.

    Maybe he needs to start doing his mid range post up dirk move. It seems to be the only move he can do if he's covered.
     
  15. Dash

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    Thank you D'antoni
     
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    Frankly , I think we have to consider keeping Luc starting too . Luc is WAY better in transition than Trevor , both in terms of handling the ball and in getting to/ finishing at the rim .

    Secondly it helps us manage Trevor's minutes better and if we need him to start at some point or play heavy minutes he will be able to do so .

    I think both guys should end up splitting minutes pretty evenly . About 25 for each .

    When Ariza comes back we are really going to have a plethora of options and it will be up to MDA to use the depth to its best potential .
     
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    I absolutely love having Luc And Tucker starting. We have the perfect mix right now.

    Bring Gordon, Ariza and Ryno off the bench and blow teams away.
     
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    I don't disagree that it's a good change of lineup, but last game maybe wasn't the best game to argue that since we got off to such a terrible start lol.
     
  19. saleem

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    Ariza off the bench is okay with me for now. I would like to see him at the 3, with Luc starting at the 4. Tucker is really good for defense against physically stronger 4's. I would match him up against Draymond, and leave Luc to guard KD, and then bring Ariza and Anderson off the bench for that series, if we meet them again.
     
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  20. farhen

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    hold it right there, jimmy had better chemistry to ariza over pj/luc so his starting spot remains.. don't like it? get used to it
     

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