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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Feb 23, 2020.

  1. Amiga

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    No, but I think trump (and many of his close knit advisors) very much believed that it would not be a major public health issue. You can listen to him closely and he will tell you the truth between the lies. ‘No one [projecting himself] see this coming’. I still think he might still be in denial or he might be at a place where he just doesn’t care anymore.
     
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  2. pirc1

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    This is what we get or electing a leader that do not believe in expert or science, think he knows everything. We had months of time to prepare and wasted it all.
     
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    ...well they believe you can pray the gay out of people...
    (the Vice President's supposed to be in charge of all this, after all)...

    ..so they probably think anything's possible.;)
     
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  4. NewRoxFan

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    If they made a movie about this people would think it was a dark comedy. And this is the guy(son-in-law) that trump said he was waiting on for research and the development of a strategy.

    A Facebook group gets an assignment: Help Jared Kushner combat coronavirus
    The president’s son-in-law and senior adviser takes a leading role in a variety of Trump challenges, this time responding to the escalating coronavirus outbreak.

    Just before midnight Wednesday, a doctor asked a group of fellow emergency room physicians on Facebook how they would combat the escalating coronavirus outbreak.

    “I have direct channel to person now in charge at White House,” Kurt Kloss wrote in his post.

    The next morning, after hundreds of doctors responded, Kloss explained why he sought the suggestions: Jared Kushner, President Donald Trump’s son-in-law and senior adviser, had asked him for recommendations.

    Kloss, whose daughter is married to Kushner’s brother, sent Kushner 12 recommendations Thursday morning.

    The Facebook crowd-sourcing exercise showed how Trump‘s team is scrambling for solutions to confront the outbreak after weeks of criticism for the administration's sluggish response, a shortage of tests and the president’s own rhetoric downplaying the pandemic. It is now expected to consume the final year of Trump's first term and threaten his campaign for a second term.

    Trump appointed Vice President Mike Pence to lead a task force to combat the spread of the coronavirus two weeks ago. But in recent days as conditions worsened and criticism mounted, Kushner took a more active role, according to two people familiar with the situation.

    Kushner has attended several meetings on coronavirus alongside Trump, including one with banking leaders at the White House Wednesday to discuss how they could help their customers hit by the outbreak. He is also talking to people about whether Trump should declare an emergency, bringing in the Federal Emergency Management Agency to coordinate and unleashing billions of dollars for struggling states.

    Trump has tapped Kushner to lead on several contentious issues, including Middle East peace, immigration and criminal justice reform, all of which involved him engaging in lengthy consultations with impacted people before recommending a decision to Trump.

    In a post, Kloss said Kushner is “now directly involved in the response to this,” referring to coronavirus.

    On February 27, one of the other doctors on Facebook questioned why Pence was put in charge of the task force over Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar, when the vice president has no significant health care experience.

    “The only thing that gave me any sense of confidence was that Dr. Anthony Faucci [sic] was on that stage,” responded Kloss, citing the well-respected director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.

    The Facebook group, EM Docs, has nearly 22,000 members around the globe who are required to provide their credentials to join. The posts about Kushner's request have been removed but a member shared pictures of them with POLITICO.

    The White House and Kloss did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/13/jared-kushner-combat-coronavirus-facebook-127941
     
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    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/mollyhensleyclancy/coronavirus-katie-porter-cdc-free-tests

    A week ago, California Rep. Katie Porter and 3 of her colleagues had written a letter to CDC Director Robert Redfield citing aprovision in federal administrative law which
    grants CDC the authority to pay for diagnostic testing free to every American regardless of insurance

    At a Congressional hearing yesterday, Katie Porter grilled the Trump appointee, Dir of the CDC for Disease Control and Prevention, repeatedly until he agreed that
    the government would pay for coronavirus testing for uninsured Americans.


    When Redfield agreed to Porter’s demands, she quickly turned to the American public to urge them to get tested.

    “Everyone in America, hear that. You are eligible to go get tested for coronavirus and have that covered, regardless of insurance.”

     
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  6. NewRoxFan

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    senator cruz extends self quarantine after second interaction with confirmed case...

     
  7. pirc1

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    why don't they just test him?
     
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  8. NewRoxFan

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    Possible good news on the horizon? btw, the prospects of a deal being made was/is driving the upturn in the stock market. This failing would drive it back downwards...



    Or not?
     
  9. NewRoxFan

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    If the second test confirms, he will be the second Brazilian official confirmed that met recently with trump and first with direct physical contact.

     
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  10. pirc1

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    Dealing with Trump administration.

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    Another reason to like HEB... and no, our local store didn't have many cleaning supplies and toilet paper...

     
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    If you think they haven't tested Trump already then you're crazy. No way though that Trump would allow them to release anything that breaks through the myth that he's a superhuman god-like creature from another planet.
     
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    Of course he does. Of course he would use the coronavirus to try and get partisan crap pushed in a bill.
     
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    My sister who I am visiting here in Florida also has come down with symptoms. Neither of us could get tested. The county health department stated that

    A) They have no test kits and may have some on Monday
    B) They only test people who have been to Japan, Italy, China, S Korea and are showing symptoms including a fever

    Private doctors are referring people to the health department. Urgent care told us they don't test currently.
     
  15. pirc1

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    so this is the likely reason for not aggressive testing the country.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-reportedly-rejected-aggressive-coronavirus-121835790.html


    Trump reportedly rejected aggressive coronavirus testing in hopes it would help his re-election
    Peter Weber
    The WeekMarch 13, 2020, 8:18 AM EDT

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    The U.S. government's response to the COVID-19 coronavirus outbreak has been "much, much worse than almost any other country that's been affected," Ashish Jha, who runs the Harvard Global Health Institute, told NPR on Thursday. "I still don't understand why we don't have extensive testing. Vietnam! Vietnam has tested more people than America has." Without testing, he added, "you have no idea how extensive the infection is," and "we have to shut schools, events, and everything down, because that's the only tool available to us until we get testing back up. It's been stunning to me how bad the federal response has been."

    There are a lot of reasons why the U.S. lags other countries in testing for the new coronavirus — defective early tests by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the decision not to adopt an effective German test adopted by the World Health Organization — but Politico's Dan Diamond told Fresh Air's Terry Gross on Thursday that politics also seems to have played a role, along with mismanagement and infighting between, for example, Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar and Seema Verma, the Medicare chief.

    In January, Azar "did push past resistance from the president's political aides to warn the president the new coronavirus could be a major problem," Diamond said, but he "has not always given the president the worst-case scenario of what could happen. My understanding is [Trump] did not push to do aggressive additional testing in recent weeks, and that's partly because more testing might have led to more cases being discovered of coronavirus outbreak, and the president had made clear — the lower the numbers on coronavirus, the better for the president, the better for his potential re-election this fall."
     
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    trump feels the need to brag about his mismanagement and lack of leadership of the Coronavirus response...

     
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  18. JayGoogle

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    That's one thing too, the GOP is manhandling this as a whole. This is a complete mess and anyone that excuses it to defend their guy Trump is completely delusional.
     
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    Ha, I'm not surprised I guess.

    Makes no sense, if it were some bioweapon from the USA you'd think we'd be better prepared for it.
     
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  20. TheFreak

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    How do you keep CV deaths down? The easiest way is not test for it in the first place. Not hard to connect the dots on that.
     
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