1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

D&D Coronavirus thread

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Feb 23, 2020.

  1. Sweet Lou 4 2

    Sweet Lou 4 2 Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2007
    Messages:
    37,717
    Likes Received:
    18,918
    you can bet that if someone without health insurance gets sick they won’t want to go to a hospital and get quarantined and pay a two week hospital stay. This exposes the massive flaw in a for profit health insurance industry
     
    FrontRunner and malakas like this.
  2. Sweet Lou 4 2

    Sweet Lou 4 2 Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2007
    Messages:
    37,717
    Likes Received:
    18,918
    Yes if you count myself (i wouldn’t)
     
  3. dachuda86

    dachuda86 Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 2008
    Messages:
    16,308
    Likes Received:
    3,580
    I recon people won't want to miss wages too. This exposed a massive flaw with getting a deadly illness...
     
  4. ThatBoyNick

    ThatBoyNick Member

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2011
    Messages:
    28,456
    Likes Received:
    43,668
    A massive flaw in our country not having a paid leave program.

    No universal healthcare combined with no paid leave ='s Americans eat sh*t and die.
     
  5. dachuda86

    dachuda86 Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 2008
    Messages:
    16,308
    Likes Received:
    3,580
    let in less illegals and less work visas and companies would offer bettee benefits like that to keep workers... we have little value if the labor market is saturated.
     
  6. Hakeemtheking

    Hakeemtheking Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2009
    Messages:
    9,193
    Likes Received:
    6,059
    First confirmed case of Coronavirus in Las Vegas. 50-yr old patient is at a VA hospital.

    Some planned conventions are being cancelled. Local business will get hurt, followed by layoffs or a cut down in hours.

    It's not coincidence the Feds made an emergency 50 basis interest rate cut. Expect another cut within weeks cause they are probably expecting economic contraction leading to a recession, likely global.

    This is no good my friends. The only salvation here is warmer weather, but we are still weeks away.
     
    FrontRunner and malakas like this.
  7. Hakeemtheking

    Hakeemtheking Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2009
    Messages:
    9,193
    Likes Received:
    6,059
    (Correction)

    Coronavirus suspected but not confirmed yet by the CDC. It didn't matter, after people heard about this, they made a run on food, supplies and especially water at Sam's and Costco, pre-apocalypitical style.

    Only thing remaining is local channels going off the air and zombies. SMDH...
     
  8. ThatBoyNick

    ThatBoyNick Member

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2011
    Messages:
    28,456
    Likes Received:
    43,668
    Sure you can advocate for that... you would still have to mandate paid leave days, would still have to have some form of a government system to ensure universal comprehensive coverage for everybody. All that competition and labor value can increase the leave days over the minimum mandate, it can throw-in healthcare benefits above the ensured comprehensive coverage, like free tit jobs for your wife and endless massages.

    The minimums have to be mandated or else they will not be universally met. This is the reality for all countries that provide universal comprehensive healthcare to 100% of its citizens. Do you hate the idea of public health insurance and public healthcare? Fine go for the wonky swiss system of mandated private insurance and private healthcare - that gets subsidized for the poor and working-class (sound familiar?). I don't like that system personally but hey at least you would be talking about something that's real, that you can point to that works. This pure capitalist Milton Friedman philosophy dream you have in your head is just garbage that would not, and has never been, shown to work. Use the benefits of capitalism within a mixed system, I totally agree, but don't fry your brain on it.
     
    #708 ThatBoyNick, Mar 6, 2020
    Last edited: Mar 6, 2020
    malakas likes this.
  9. NewRoxFan

    NewRoxFan Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2002
    Messages:
    54,516
    Likes Received:
    54,453
    Funny the stories change over time. trump says something, then denies saying it, and then the admin spins out a different explanation.

     
    joshuaao, FrontRunner and B-Bob like this.
  10. Amiga

    Amiga 10 years ago...
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2008
    Messages:
    21,924
    Likes Received:
    18,672
    A Canadian was confirmed yesterday and believed to obtain it while attending a conference in Vegas.
     
    FrontRunner likes this.
  11. rocketsjudoka

    rocketsjudoka Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2007
    Messages:
    54,220
    Likes Received:
    42,222
    We have a 3% unemployment rate with still more companies hiring so the labor market isn't saturated. If we want to offer more leave and better benefits without driving up inflation and we need flexibility in the work force so companies aren't losing productivity when they give people leave. This is critical for timesensitive jobs like construction.

    It's too late for Andrew Yang but this is one area where UBI might help. If we have a flexible labor force UBI might fill in the gaps for people taking leave and meeting unexpected expenses like medical bills and loss of income from quarentine.
     
    Nook and B-Bob like this.
  12. malakas

    malakas Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2014
    Messages:
    20,167
    Likes Received:
    15,381


    So if this had happened next year things would be even worse?
     
    No Worries and FrontRunner like this.
  13. mick fry

    mick fry Member

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2013
    Messages:
    19,343
    Likes Received:
    6,875

    Damn, black people can be so damn racist. Is that you Lou?
     
    #713 mick fry, Mar 6, 2020
    Last edited: Mar 6, 2020
  14. SamFisher

    SamFisher Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2003
    Messages:
    58,947
    Likes Received:
    36,506


    Galaxy Brain geniuses on the right
     
  15. Andre0087

    Andre0087 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2012
    Messages:
    8,342
    Likes Received:
    11,320
    No they wouldn’t it would just go back to the shareholders and CEO.
     
    Nook, mdrowe00 and justtxyank like this.
  16. NewRoxFan

    NewRoxFan Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2002
    Messages:
    54,516
    Likes Received:
    54,453
    Credibility?


     
    joshuaao, No Worries and FrontRunner like this.
  17. NewRoxFan

    NewRoxFan Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2002
    Messages:
    54,516
    Likes Received:
    54,453
    Credibility?



     
    FrontRunner and B-Bob like this.
  18. Sweet Lou 4 2

    Sweet Lou 4 2 Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2007
    Messages:
    37,717
    Likes Received:
    18,918
    So you agree with me? People who are infected are disincentivized to get tested and risk getting quarantined. Not only will it run up a big hospital bill, but they will not be able to work.

    In a system where you had health care and a safety net, people wouldn't have to fear testing positive for a virus. Remember that 80% of people who are infected don't even realize they are sick.
     
  19. NewRoxFan

    NewRoxFan Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2002
    Messages:
    54,516
    Likes Received:
    54,453
    Guess even they saw the poor look that caused...

     
    FrontRunner likes this.
  20. Sweet Lou 4 2

    Sweet Lou 4 2 Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2007
    Messages:
    37,717
    Likes Received:
    18,918
    3% Unemployment and you still blame the illegals for not being able to get a job?
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now