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Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by J.R., Mar 12, 2014.

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  1. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    According to a Seattle article, they are receiving around $2 billion over 20 years. The same article speculated the Astros would see $1.6 billion (prior to this whole CSN mess). Nowhere in the article you reference does Crane say he expects Mariners money. He implied that their TV deal enabled them to help pay Cano. Wouldn't you agree with his Cano comment?
     
  2. Granville

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    It could be possible that providers who got a discount for the loss of Astros and Rockets may have the ability to elect not to pay for that programming should Fox require it. It would depend on how the provision in the contractual amendment that granted the discount was written. CSN H was a 20 year deal and the decision could have been to drop the contracted rates for the duration of the deal without any disclaimer verbiage in the event the teams came crawling back.
     
  3. Granville

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    Then why didn't Crane leave it at we need a good deal to get good players?
     
  4. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Not sure what the difference is. He used a seemingly real world example as to the fact that Seattle has a deal and was able to spend a lot on Cano who is considered a good player.

    Do you agree with his statement about Seattle and Cano?
     
  5. MadMax

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    If there were any offer out there that was remotely profitable, that point would be great. The only offers that have been thrown into evidence are ones the judge said weren't worth taking.

    So regardless of what he expects...or what he says he expects in the media...no deal has been presented to him that makes any sense.
     
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    This conversation is turning into....

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>CSN Houston case returns to courthouse Monday, but that's the only certainty <a href="http://t.co/CqD757vAG4">http://t.co/CqD757vAG4</a></p>&mdash; David Barron (@dfbarron) <a href="https://twitter.com/dfbarron/statuses/459837089463291904">April 25, 2014</a></blockquote>
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  8. RunninRaven

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    Wow, that's a point I haven't seen made before. Wouldn't that suck to finally set fire to this whole CSN Houston thing only to find out that not even FSSW would take the Astros back?
     
  9. Nick

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    They'd take them back, but probably just restrict their coverage to the Houston market.

    The Rangers don't get high ratings in Houston... they'd gladly take Astros games, and the local advertising that comes with it in this market.

    Problem is, it will go back to how it was in the early 2000's... as soon as the game is done, its DFW programming. Would be nice if they can get a buyer for the CSN network... as its content for local sports exceeds anything that has been in the Houston market ever.
     
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    What if he had used the Oakland A's as an example of how to run the team? That's the difference.
     
  12. Major

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    Why would he do that, given that it's not how the Astros want to run their team? It's not like Oakland runs their team that way by choice.
     
  13. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    You keep evading my question. Do you agree with his statement about Seattle and Cano?
     
  14. Granville

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    Crane's not getting Seattle money, you keep evading reality.
     
  15. tellitlikeitis

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    Is that how you roll in the D&D?
     
  16. bobrek

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    He NEVER said that. You called out MadMax for not answering your question, yet you continue to not answer mine. Do you agree with Crane's statement about Seattle and Cano. It's simple. You either agree with him that Seattle's TV deal helped them pay Cano, or you disagree with him. Which is it?
     
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Good morning. We are in federal court for a hearing in the Houston Baseball Partners suit vs,. Comcast and Drayton McLane.</p>&mdash; David Barron (@dfbarron) <a href="https://twitter.com/dfbarron/statuses/460782004485623809">April 28, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Rockets are not a party to this suit, so Rockets fans can continue sleeping in.</p>&mdash; David Barron (@dfbarron) <a href="https://twitter.com/dfbarron/statuses/460782138627870720">April 28, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Today's hearing is to determine whether the bankruptcy court has subject matter jurisdiction to hear the case.</p>&mdash; David Barron (@dfbarron) <a href="https://twitter.com/dfbarron/statuses/460783575063752704">April 28, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>The Astros want the state sent back to state court. McLane and Comcast wants it to stay in federal court.</p>&mdash; David Barron (@dfbarron) <a href="https://twitter.com/dfbarron/statuses/460783721365254145">April 28, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Today’s hearing promises to be loads of fun. Judge Isgur is discussing how to apply indemnity clause, which involves an eight-corner test.</p>&mdash; David Barron (@dfbarron) <a href="https://twitter.com/dfbarron/statuses/460784188539416576">April 28, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Dean Smith, you may recall, could only come up with a four-corners offense, so it's good there is no direct basketball involvement here.</p>&mdash; David Barron (@dfbarron) <a href="https://twitter.com/dfbarron/statuses/460784402297921536">April 28, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>That was an attempt at humor. It's early. Give me a break here.</p>&mdash; David Barron (@dfbarron) <a href="https://twitter.com/dfbarron/statuses/460784526440927232">April 28, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Speaking of which, neither Drayton McLane nor Jim Crane are in the courtroom today.</p>&mdash; David Barron (@dfbarron) <a href="https://twitter.com/dfbarron/statuses/460785382179622912">April 28, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Here is an explanation of the eight-corners test. <a href="http://t.co/ngbbmrbt12">http://t.co/ngbbmrbt12</a></p>&mdash; David Barron (@dfbarron) <a href="https://twitter.com/dfbarron/statuses/460788483997462528">April 28, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Crane-McLane-Comcast hearing ends w/no ruling on whether suit stays in fed court or back to state court. Judge Isgur to rule w/in 2 wks.</p>&mdash; David Barron (@dfbarron) <a href="https://twitter.com/dfbarron/statuses/460855613208023040">April 28, 2014</a></blockquote>
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