If Chris Paul and James Harden will both retire today. Chris Paul is a first ballot Hall of Famer. James Harden will be a water downed version of Mitch Richmond.
Harden will be 1st ballot. He's going to finish 2nd in MVP voting twice and has gotten to the WCF's. Tracy McGrady just got in first ballot.
he's a great player but pass first "pure" point guards are overrated. at the end of the day, you need a guy who can put the ball in the basket himself instead of pass to role players and hope they put the ball in for you. that's why harden averaging 11 assist while averaging 29 ppg this year was so amazing.
Derrick Rose actually WON the MVP and he also gotten to the ECF. And everyone will laugh when someone said Rose is a Hall of Famer.
Agreed. And tbh i'd pick OKC roster ahead of the Clippers, at least they're young, very physical, they fight hard...the Clippers have literally nothing good aside for their two stars as today.
no problem, give the trash to harden and hes carrying them to wcf and they become great supporting cast playing at peak of their careers and give this team to cp3 and soon youre declaring them trash in retrospect like you did above Harden has qualities skills and leadership capabilities that cp3 can only dream of..he almost inspires people to play better..his conditioning and HEALTH is on lebron level while CP# is fragile and oft injured
In 5 to 7 years Harden will have atleast 1 to 3 mvp's, few scoring and assist titles and unlike paul will have accomplished something in the playoffs. Infact Harden's playoffs record> paul's record. Also since when did Mitch Richmond average 11 assists in a season?
Lol no. Come on, i'd take Harden over Paul, but this roster without Griffin is pure trash, i don't see Howard, Ariza, Beverley, Smith and the best Brewer ever in that list.
Paul definitely didn't choke this postseason. He was terrific for most of that series against Utah. But what the hell is he supposed to do when the team's 2nd best player goes down with a season-ending injury(for the 2nd straight year)? I know it sounds like excuse-making, but sometimes there are too many obstacles in the way for a team. In the East back in the late 80's/early 90's, the dominant teams were the Celtics, Pistons, and Bulls. The Knicks and Cavs occasionally snuck in there, but otherwise it was the same teams in the ECF every year. So if you were the Atlanta Hawks with Dominique Wilkins(another great player who never made a Conference Finals in his entire career), you're always gonna come up short. And it was worse in the West back in the 80's. Sure, quite a few ballclubs made it to the WCF. But the Finals saw the Lakers represent the West 8 times and the other 2 were the Rockets(first with Moses, then with the Twin Towers). Imagine being a player in that conference on another team having virtually no shot at a ring for an entire decade.
I agree that people put too much team success on star players. Remember Kevin Garnett never had a chance to sniff the Finals in Minny? People sometimes said that he wasn't a winner. Then he got traded to team with Pierce and Allen, and boom he's a champion. The 2001 Kings could have gone all the way had they not got robbed by the refs. There were also untimely injuries. That said. Some star players just don't have "it." Some others have games that aren't good for multiple stars. These guys have only themselves to blame.
I'm a CP3 fan. He GOT ROBBED of an MVP the year Kobe won on "lifetime achievement". CP3 was the best player that season, and best pure point guard in game every year after. For all the narrative about him choking, I actually think CP3 is NAILS in the 4th quarter and clutch, he's one of the few players I've had fears of when ball is in his hands. Basically I'm not anti CP3 But doesnt mean he's actually fun to be around though lol. Thats all. Question remains, why would DJ leave the contending Clippers for a lesser club making less money? Its either Texas appeals that much to him or Clips situation wasnt so hot
