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Controversy erupts after undocumented immigrant waves Mexican flag at graduation

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by asianballa23, Jun 20, 2015.

  1. DCkid

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    But that's what this thread is about. It's about her holding up the flag for a few seconds. I could find thousands of examples of kids here legally who overcame extreme difficulties to have the same accomplishments you listed. That would be a pretty boring story that would never be a story to begin with..

    What makes her story a little more interesting is two things. 1.) She most likely couldn't have accomplished any of it without being in the United States illegally. And 2.) unless you are in favor of completely opening the borders, there will always be a debate about how to control illegal immigration.

    Given the above, it seems to be bad judgment on her part to draw negative attention to herself and her cause.
     
  2. SamFisher

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    The link to fox news that you originally posted is sufficient.

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  3. FranchiseBlade

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    I'll condone her actions. It makes no difference. She's from a nation and is proud of her heritage, just like someone of Irish heritage might have an Irish flag on St. Patricks day. It happens all the time.

    There isn't a problem with someone of a different heritage waving a flag symbolic of that heritage. It doesn't degrade a person's love for the U.S.
     
  4. FranchiseBlade

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    Look at these people refusing to assimilate as they proudly display an Irish flag in the United States of America.

    [​IMG].

    There's even more.

    These traitors painted their own faces as the Irish flag. Way to assimilate a-holes!
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  5. Space Ghost

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    Except those Irish are legal citizens.

    Its not legal vs illegal that is the issue here. The rest of us have to pay the 50k for our education. Our country is suppose to take care of itself first. I have no problem with illegals going to public school as a child. I do have a problem when they get moved to the front of the line when the rest of us are struggling. Yes, her waving her flag was a slap in the face. It was not pride. If it were pride, she would have been waving an American flag, in respect for everything being handed to her. If she were legal, she would probably be flipping burgers.
     
  6. FranchiseBlade

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    They are legal citizens? How do you know that?

    These are people who are in this great nation of ours enjoying all the benefits of this nation because they didn't have the economic opportunities in their homeland and now they are rubbing our faces in it.

    It's like one poster said, it's one thing to be proud of your heritage but it's another to clearly rub it in the faces of the people in the nation that gave those Irish so much opportunity.
     
  7. Amiga

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    If it was pride, its her pride and she can express that however. Maybe she is just honoring her parent or heritage, who the heck know.

    Did you meant the new immigrants or citizens to be vs illegal. There is nothing much that illegal have an advantage over citizens. Plus she was 2.

    This country was found on illegal immigration. Hard work good folks. Folks like her can help more than hurt.

    Our country should take care of all deserving human beings and more to the best of our capacity and capabilities.
     
  8. Mr. Clutch

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    Hmm, I don't think anyone has a problem with people flying the Mexican flag during Cinco de Mayo, soccer games, or Mexican independence day.
     
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    FranchiseBlade falling short when it comes to logic, as usual.
     
  11. Space Ghost

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    Dude. A free college education is not a benefit of this nation. The rest of us have to go in debt for 10+ years or get a scholarship. Waving the country's flag who would not give her this opportunity over the country that did on her graduation is a slap in the face.
     
  12. Mr. Clutch

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    I'm not against it(but that's a separate off topic issue). But the point is those American flags were worn because were upset about Mexican flags which you said didn't happen.
     
  14. Space Ghost

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    You're right. She will may do good. She can teach other illegals how to get a free college education.

    What she should do is become a legal citizen. And then burden the debt of her college education like the rest of us.
     
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    Says the guy who's against a one foreign flag being flown in the U.S. agreeing that it's rubbing another nation's heritage in the faces of America, but appears to be perfectly okay when the flag being flown is Irish.
     
  16. Mr. Clutch

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    Ok so there are a few crazies. And there are Mexicans who think California should return to Mexico.

    99% of people are ok with Mexican flags on the occasions I mentioned.

    Were there protests for the following events in the US?

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    Reliant Stadium:
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    She didn't get a free college education because she was an illegal education.

    It's no more a slap in the face than people waving the Irish flag on the streets of a nation that gave them opportunities they couldn't get in Ireland.
     
  18. Dairy Ashford

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    They are legal citizens likely because immigration and deportation laws were practically non-existent until a rising percentage of non-white non-english speakers created a sense of encroachment and cultural impurity.

    Also I'm not sure what line you're talking about with respect to college education. Suburban whites avail themselves of all types of scholarships, and minority immigrants, documented or otherwise, have the same tuition obligations as native born citizens. Some still seem to misperceive college as an entree to a certain socioeconomic class rather than as a resource for maximizing the professional and intellectual talent in an information and service based economy.
     
  19. dc rock

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    Americanballa23 or gtfo.
     
  20. Space Ghost

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    There is no point in hashing out the past. We could go back to the beginning of time with this logic. The issue is today, not yesterday.


    Reading further into it, it seems nobody knows how her college was financed. If it was a scholarship or paid for, I have no problem with her successes in college.

    If it was a government grant, then yes, i absolutely have a problem with this.
     

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