Controversy averted: Chris Paul voted in over Jeremy Lin in 2013 All-Star Game

Spiegel · Jan 19, 2013

Howard over Dncan and Marc Gasol is a joke of the decade.

Spiegel · Jan 19, 2013

kmav23 said: ↑

If CP3 goes to the east. next year

... then Lin will be an all star
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Lillard, Westbrook, Parker.....

kmav23 · Jan 19, 2013

Spiegel said: ↑

Lillard, Westbrook, Parker.....
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Lin came 3rd in votes this year 250 thousand votes in front of harden at 4th place, he has 3 times as much votes as westbrook.

If Paul goes east then lock in Lin for Starter next year.

Kobe Bryant (LAL) 1,177,456,
Chris Paul (LAC) 651,893,
Jeremy Lin (Hou) 605,624,
James Harden (Hou) 337,585,
Russell Westbrook (OKC) 268,558,
Steve Nash (LAL) 202,274,
Tony Parker (SA) 128,966,
Ricky Rubio (Min) 112,352,
Stephen Curry (GS) 97,761,
Manu Ginobili (SA) 84,564

kmav23 · Jan 19, 2013

heck even if Paul does not go to east Lin can catch up

cfansnet · Jan 19, 2013

HOU_ROCKETS1 said: ↑

lin fans yall mad bros?
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As a Rocket's fan I wouldn't mind if all the positions were filled with our players.

Now I hope people will put the "China-vote" thing to rest next time...

durvasa · Jan 19, 2013

kmav23 said: ↑

Lin came 3rd in votes this year 250 thousand votes in front of harden at 4th place, he has 3 times as much votes as westbrook.

If Paul goes east then lock in Lin for Starter next year.
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You're incorrectly assuming that the people who voted for Chris Paul would be more likely to vote for Lin than Westbrook or Harden.

kmav23 · Jan 19, 2013

durvasa said: ↑

You're incorrectly assuming that the people who voted for Chris Paul would be more likely to vote for Lin than Westbrook or Harden.
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You do understand there Lin has 260,000 votes in front of next place Harden who benefited with more votes playing with Lin.

His 340,000 in front of westbrook.

Chris Paul votes would be spread out over the other guards.

Lin would have to be favourite

durvasa · Jan 19, 2013

kmav23 said: ↑

You do understand there Lin has 260,000 votes in front of next place Harden who benefited with more votes playing with Lin.

His 340,000 in front of westbrook.

Chris Paul votes would be spread out over the other guards.

Lin would have to be favourite
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A couple questions to consider:

- How would Paul's votes be distributed among the other guards? Would someone who voted for Chris Paul over Lin be more likely to vote for Westbrook or Lin with Paul out of the picture?

- How would Lin's popularity change 1 more year removed from "Linsanity"?

- Would Kobe's popularity also start to wane if the Lakers miss the playoffs? How would the votes he loses be distributed?

- After a season where Harden as the clear number 1 option in Houston, could we expect him to get more votes next year relative to Lin?

mr. 13 in 33 · Jan 19, 2013

NBA coaches received their All-Star voting instructions Friday afternoon.

And we've got the only cheat sheet they'll need before turning their votes in before Wednesday's noon deadline.

West and East coaches, as always, are being asked to vote for seven players in their respective conferences -- albeit none of their own -- and observe the following guidelines:

• Each ballot must include two guards, three frontcourt players and two wild cards.

• Players must be ranked in order of preference in all three categories.

• If a coach feels that a player can play more than one position, he is encouraged to vote for that player at the position "most advantageous for the All-Star team," without regard to where the player is listed on the All-Star ballot or how he's listed in box scores.

The starters in the West, as announced Thursday night, are Chris Paul and Kobe Bryant at guard, with Kevin Durant, Blake Griffin and Dwight Howard in the frontcourt.

The East's starters are Dwyane Wade and Rajon Rondo at guard, with LeBron James, Carmelo Anthony and Kevin Garnett in the frontcourt.

The reserves will be announced Thursday night on TNT. Using the guidelines laid out above, here's how ESPN.com's benches would look:Eastern Conference Reserves
Backcourt: Kyrie Irving (Cleveland), Jrue Holiday (Philadelphia)

Surely by now you've heard that this is a (very) down year for guards in the Derrick Rose-less East. If folks are questioning the merits of Dwyane Wade and Rajon Rondo as starters, you can sympathize with the coaches who are required by All-Star law to choose two backcourt backups.

Deron Williams could have made this a lot easier, but he's barely shooting 40 percent from the floor. So we have to scroll farther down the standings than usual, pitch our standard speech about how much we value team success when making these picks and reward Irving and Holiday even though neither is on course to be wowing us in the playoffs.

Irving, though not yet 21, is in the top five in PER (21.94) among point guards and will almost certainly snag several of the coach votes he might have split with a healthy Anderson Varejao because of the Cavs' lowly 10-31 record. Holiday, meanwhile, joins Russell Westbrook as the NBA's only player averaging at least 18 points and eight assists -- with 10 double-doubles after one last season -- and is widely regarded as the key cog in Philly's attempts to hang on in the race for the East's No. 8 spot while the Sixers continue to await Andrew Bynum's season debut. So he's got a real shot unless the coaches, out of respect for D-Will's lifelong body of work, go veteran.
Frontcourt: Tyson Chandler (New York), Joakim Noah (Chicago), Paul Pierce (Boston)Chandler is admittedly one of my favorite players, but I don't think it's a biased stretch to suggest he'll get the most support from the East coaches, given the widespread belief out there that Chandler deserves to start over Kevin Garnett, as well as the fact that he's overdue for his first All-Star nod. The Olympian has long been considered one of the most impactful defenders in the game, which is key for the Knicks given their increasing struggles at that end, but he's also averaging an uberefficient 12.4 points and 11.0 rebounds on 67 percent shooting from the floor in addition to his role as New York's emotional compass.

And Noah isn't far off that standard, averaging 12.4 points, 10.7 rebounds, 4.1 assists and 2.0 blocks to A) thrust himself into the heart of the defensive player of the year race and, more importantly, B) relentlessly and hyperactively lead the Bulls through life without Rose along with coach Tom Thibodeau.

It only figures, furthermore, that there are several more centers to consider in this category now that, according to the ballot, we're supposed to be de-emphasizing positions like we're all Erik Spoelstra. Brooklyn's Brook Lopez, Atlanta's Al Horford and Miami's Chris Bosh -- who, yes, counts as a center on the smallish Heat no matter what Spoelstra is labeling him as -- all have a strong case, as Varejao would have if he hadn't gotten hurt.

The choice here, though, is Pierce. The Celts' captain simply has to be in Houston, even though that would give Boston one more All-Star than it realistically deserves, because he's been the most productive, reliable and most versatile Celt yet again.

The more I think about it, actually, I can really see East coaches invoking the whole do-what's-most-advantageous edict mentioned at the top to sneak Pierce in as one of their two guards, thus making up for the slim pickings at that position and, rather ironically in the Year of the Centerless Ballot, opening up a slot for another big man.

Wild cards: Paul George (Indiana), Brook Lopez (Brooklyn)

Although David West is right up there as a proven commodity with copious amounts of vet savvy, George is the Pacers' direct replacement for the injured-all-season Danny Granger. As a legit two-way player with a steady stream of double-doubles recently, George thus wins this vote as the MVP of the Pacers' gradual surge up the East standings without Granger, even though he hasn't exactly proven that he can stay at this level all season.

Lopez, meantime, has supplied the offensive efficiency and night-to-night reliability that the Nets haven't gotten from Williams, good for a gaudy PER (25.68) that distracts you from the fact that he's still not quite rebounding the ball (7.4 rpg) at a passable level.

In spite of the flaws, we're going with George and Lopez regardless, making Bosh the odd man out on our list. And maybe he deserves that sort of wrist slap with his rebounding down to a career-low 7.1 boards per game. Yet I repeat: There will be no quarrels here if the East coaches drop Irving or Holiday, youngsters with years of All-Star chances ahead of them, to work Bosh instead when he's shooting the ball better than ever.

Other East snubees include the Atlanta duo of Al Horford and Josh Smith (with Smith's cause unquestionably dinged by his suspension earlier this week), Chicago's Deng and the onrushing Boozer, Detroit's Greg Monroe, Indy's West and Milwaukee's Brandon Jennings.
Western Conference Reserves

Backcourt: James Harden (Houston), Russell Westbrook (Oklahoma City)

Something tells me this isn't the first time you've seen these guys together in the same sentence. Something also tells me that you can't wait to watch them interact, along with West starter Kevin Durant, now that they're not all full-time teammates.

Don't think they'll check into the actual game together, since Harden will be representing the host Rockets and thus has to be intro'd separately, according to the All-Star coaching handbook, so he can fully milk the hometown crowd's applause. But the former Thunder sixth man and the OKC point guard he used to share the playmaking with are just about the two easiest selections for West coaches.

The bearded lefty ranks fourth in the league in scoring (26.3 ppg) to quickly prove his franchise-player chops in Houston for one of the league's surprise teams of the first half. Westbrook, meanwhile, has recovered from a shaky December (39.4 percent from the floor) to rediscover his shot this month while continuing to rank in the league's top five in both assists and steals.

Frontcourt: Tim Duncan (San Antonio), David Lee (Golden State), Marc Gasol (Memphis)
Correction: Duncan is an even easier choice for West coaches. Especially after he was excluded from last February's All-Star extravaganza for the first time in his peerless career.

The turn-back-the-clock season he's submitting, at 36, should have Timmy starting over Dwight Howard. So he's an automatic pick even in this new, centerless world of All-Star ballots … which is actually rather fitting given Duncan's longtime insistence on being labeled a power forward despite everyone outside of his own consciousness looking at him as a center.

The competition to join Duncan, meanwhile, is as fierce as ever, even with injuries canceling the candidacies of three go-to nominees: Pau Gasol, Kevin Love and Dirk Nowitzki. Even without those three, you've still got Marc Gasol, Lee, Zach Randolph, Serge Ibaka and LaMarcus Aldridge all in the discussion. But we (and the coaches) can only pick two more.

Lee legitimately has the best numbers of any power forward in the West, averaging nearly 20 points, 11 rebounds and four assists for a team in Golden State that has wildly exceeded expectations not only in the standings but also on the defensive end, flourishing on D and on the boards even with lead rim protector Andrew Bogut playing in only four games so far.

And Gasol narrowly edges out Randolph here for opening No. 3, given how much he contributes at both ends as the down-low anchor for the West's best defense. I know, I know: Why bring D into an All-Star debate? The reality: Coaches (and media know-it-alls like myself) like to reward play-the-right-way guys whenever we can. So I'm expecting Gasol to eke past Z-Bo if it comes down to an either/or vote for the two Griz big men.
Wild cards: Tony Parker (San Antonio), Zach Randolph (Memphis)
Parker versus Stephen Curry for one wild card. Randolph versus LaMarcus Aldridge for the other remaining vacancy.

That's how it broke down on this scorecard after Ibaka, Blazers rookie Damian Lillard, Utah's Al Jefferson, Denver's Kenneth Faried and the West's ultimate wild card -- Sacramento's DeMarcus Cousins (yeah, I said it) -- were grudgingly scratched from consideration.

There are two Clippers and two Lakers in the starting lineup, plus two OKCers on the West squad when you add Westbrook to Durant. Did I choose Tony and Z-Bo for symmetry? Can't deny it was a factor. Can't deny that I'm more comfortable picking two Spurs and two Grizzlies before I go with two Warriors, even accounting for Golden State's unforeseen success and with Curry finding a new level this season as a QB and tone-setter along with consistent health.

Doesn't hurt that Parker has taken his game up a notch even from last season and continues to be a Duncan-like rock for the Spurs with Manu Ginobili in and out of the lineup. Also doesn't hurt that Randolph, on a team that doesn't have nearly the bench that the Warriors do, is right up there with Lee on the double-double front.
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