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Connecting the Trump-Russia Dots

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by adoo, Mar 8, 2017.

  1. ipaman

    ipaman Contributing Member

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    don't play dumb, the entire russian angle is funded by super wealthy liberals and the liberal media (cnn especially) won't move on. hilary herself blamed the russians (now everybody but herself) for losing. get back to me when someone actually finds something.
     
  2. Anticope

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    Well then it's one of the most well-executed witch hunts in political history. The Dems are so savvy that they were able to infiltrate Trump's own Justice Department and get a special counsel appointed to investigate his campaign, that is some well-played 32D underwater chess.
     
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  3. ipaman

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    Don't underestimate sore losers with deep pockets and that goes for both sides.
     
  4. Anticope

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    But don't be concerned with billionaires who have only ever shown concern for themselves having the political power of the presidency. Thanks for the life lesson.
     
  5. mtbrays

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    Yeah, the judicial system is really known for handing out FISA and search warrants like candy.

    Are you in the room with Robert Mueller? Because you seem pretty convinced that there's no case here, but that's a hell of a statement to make if you aren't part of the special prosecution team.
     
  6. TheresTheDagger

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    This is a true statement.

    But the question just as easily could be asked of you. You seem pretty convinced there is a case here yet no indictment concerning Trump or his campaign have occurred yet. In this country, the presumption is innocence until guilt is proven....unless apparently you are breathlessly hoping for a liberal victory of sorts after getting your clocked cleaned in several recent elections.

    What's the hurry anyways? If you get Trump and your pound of flesh you'll get your opportunity to crow about it right?

    IF.....
     
  7. dobro1229

    dobro1229 Contributing Member

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    So the whole basis of your argument is that Rod Rosenstein (Acting AG appointed BY TRUMP) was paid off by George Soros or whoever to start a Special Prosecution of the Trump Campaign?

    Sounds like a sound argument.
     
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    I saw the plans in a folder left in a DC area Starbucks last October.

    it was called the "Queen Sacrifice" - Comey released his letter on Hillary's emails that handed Trump the election - knowing that that Trump would then fire him at the first opportunity, leaving it to Mueller to investigate Trump.

    it's all there. Connect the dots sheeple.
     
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  9. Jugdish

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    Are you suggesting that pgabriel is in the pocket of the liberal smear machine funding the investigation??
     
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  10. mtbrays

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    Nah, I'm willing to see what the investigation brings. If it totally exonerates President Trump of wrongdoing, that is good for the country. I'm just calling a spade a spade and his actions, along with those of the people around him, are murky at best. Robert Mueller seems to be as a credible an investigator as we have in this country and I'll accept whatever he finds.

    In the mean time, none of us know anything about where Mueller's investigation stands. You accuse me of violating the presumption of innocence before guilt, yet you go out of your way to deny the merits of an investigation at all. Your hands are not clean in this either, brother.

    And yes, if President Trump is found to have undermined our democracy to side with Russia, you won't hear the end of it. My concern has never been about the personal ethics of President Trump. Instead, it has always been about the undermining of America's foreign and domestic interests at the expense of Russia's. Actions like suggesting the removal of sanctions on the Putin government, weakening NATO and constantly casting doubt about the consensus of our intelligence community regarding Russia's role in the election do not help America; they help the Russian government and solidify Putin's hold over that country.

    It wasn't too long ago that your side of the aisle saw Russia as a grave threat to global democracy and hurled the word "commie" like an epithet. Where have those days gone?
     
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  11. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    Indictments tend to follow investigations, not the other way around.

    Right, you're in the state that elected a guy who physically attacked a reporter and lied about it having the gall to blame the reporter. You elected a so-called President that has the maturity of a six year old, is a white supremacist sympathizer, and a blithering fool who must think his administration is part of the lineup at WWE Raw, possibly the most ignorant man in elected office anywhere in the world. Let your pride shine through.
     
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    Because they didn't receive what they were hoping from the emails uncovered from Trump Jr....

    Do you believe that the Trump campaign wouldn't have used anything given by the Russians had the Russians followed through on their email?
     
  13. dmoneybangbang

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    No. You are falling for the narrative that Trump is special... the guy golfs at his own resorts and charges tax payers.... stop being naive that Trump isn't the swamp.
     
  14. No Worries

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    Trump is not in jail. When Trump is in jail, he will be.
     
  15. dmoneybangbang

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    Lolololol! Trump is the blue collar billionaire!
     
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    The Russia angle isn't funded by anyone except for the United States government. There has already been plenty found to warrant the investigation. We just need to see how much there is to find and what will come from it.
     
  17. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I don't think it would have been unethical just because it came from Russia. Lets say the same information comes from an American. Whats the difference.

    If the information is real its real. It would be no different than the recording of Trump that was 12 years old. That lead to supposed sexual assault allegations in the middle of a campaign against the first legitimate female contender

    His tax returns were leaked. We have no idea what that billion dollar loss was. As a large real estate developer its entirely possible to have something like that. But the point is Trump actually had leaks against him and no one thinks anything about it.
     
  18. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    You seem more concerned with the leaks than with the fact that the so-called President is a secretive, pathological, lying ******* and that the leaks provide a smidge of transparency that this administration sorely and very intentionally lacks.
     
  19. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    All i did was answer a question

    I don't care about any of it cause he won fairly focusing brilliantly on his target audience
     
  20. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    You don't know if he won fairly and that's the point of the investigation. You keep saying you don't care as you continue posting as if you are. He won is a poor excuse for him being a pathological lying, secretive, horrible human being who is unfit to lead a band march much less a country.
     

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