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[CNN] Union: Pistol-whipped detective didn't shoot attacker because of headlines

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by GlenDice, Aug 13, 2015.

  1. Bandwagoner

    Bandwagoner Contributing Member

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    If the cop didn't have a gun he wouldn't have been "pistol whipped with his own service weapon"
     
  2. Anas acuta

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    Wow you truly are a POS.
     
  3. ipaman

    ipaman Contributing Member

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    A LEO who shoots as first resort is a terrible LEO. A LEO who get's punk'd by a criminal is a terrible LEO. There's a lot of terrible LEOs out there and they come in all shapes and sizes.
     
  4. yo

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    Why don't we find some middle ground and cops can shoot at will with spit wad guns? I've been shot by a spit wad and it hurt like hell! I was rendered temporarily disabled, but it didn't kill me though.
     
  5. Rocket River

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    . . . and you are a racist scumbag with a badge. . . .

    Shall we insult each other some more. . . . or is this sufficient?

    Rocket River
     
  6. sugrlndkid

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    Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6...
     
  7. dback816

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    Maybe you should volunteer to be "inconvenienced" next if you think getting knocked unconscious and sent to the ER as a bloody mess isn't a big deal as long as you're alive.
     
  8. Rocket River

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    It is part of the job he signed up for . . . ..

    Rocket River
     
  9. GlenDice

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    Then when he actually does his job like Wilson did, don't whine like bytch about "police brutality"
     
  10. Bandwagoner

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    If he felt the situation required deadly force he could have used it. If it didn't he shouldn't have been so quick to pull his gun. These are the basic rules of carrying a gun. If he hadn't pulled his gun without being prepared to use it (or if he didn't have a gun) he wouldn't have been beaten with a gun.
     
  11. DFWRocket

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    thats really really low. Bloodied and battered and needing staples in the head is a simple inconvenience?

    Your missing the point of how he could've easily been killed. Seriously, I have a feeling you would still feel this way even If the officer would've been killed. You're calling Anas Acutas a racist based on his posts here, but based on your post here I'd say you harbor Hate towards any and all police no matter what.

    While I'll admit that a few police in the past have been too itchy with the trigger finger (with people fleeing etc - and they SHOULD face punishment) but if ANYONE is stupid enough to charge the police regardless of if they have a gun or not - THEY should bear the responsibility of their actions, not the police.
     
  12. DFWRocket

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    This is whats wrong with this country- from the article

    "Adding insult to injury is that several bystanders, rather than help, took pictures of the bloodied officer as he was facedown on the concrete and posted the images on social media, where the officer was mocked."




    Nobody, nobody anywhere is suggesting this.
     
  13. Bandwagoner

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    This is what is wrong with police unions

    From the article

    So taking someones life isn't the reason, it is that the action is now subject to scrutiny they have not experienced before. Directly from the police unions mouth.
     
  14. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    It isn't scrutiny, it is that cop's lives are being ruined when they did nothing wrong. Officer Wilson can't get a job as a cop, because he defended himself from a violent criminal that was attacking him. Officer Encinia may lose his job because a crazy b**** he was trying to give a warning fought him and then killed herself in jail. When we take away officers' ability to do their jobs, things like this happen, and then either there will be a backlash the other way or it will be tougher to find officers. I am fine with punishing officers that break the law. Officers that are not found guilty should be restored to their rightful place, and they shouldn't be dragged through the mud on the way to that outcome.
     
  15. dback816

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    Being bruised and sent to the hospital isn't a minor inconvenience regardless of your profession.

    You don't seem to value the wellbeing of law enforcement personels very highly, do you.
     
  16. Rocketman95

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    And too many times, law enforcement does not seem to value the well-being of the public they're supposed to serve.
     
  17. SF3isBack!!

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    This is the difference between the military and the police. The ability to shoot someone in the leg, lol Why is it either death or nothing with these guys?
     
  18. SF3isBack!!

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    He shot the kid 6 times and at least twice in the head, the dude had no weapon, lol. Leg shot, Shoulder shot? No ****ing head shots, lol.
     
  19. rocketsjudoka

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    Pretty much this. An LEO who follows proper procedure and proper discretion should be able to resolve the situation without further risk to themselves or other. In the case where the civilian is angrily advancing on the LEO he can still lawfully order them to stop and if they don't then has a pretty strong case for moving onto force. Also there is a range of force between lethal force and doing nothing. LEO's have tasers and pepper spray and hopefully most LEO's have been trained in some close quarters combat techniques to deal with someone who is in that close. Also this is speculative but I wouldn't be surprised if the LEO didn't properly secure his weapon allowing it to be used against him.
     
  20. Bandwagoner

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    These standards are unrealistic. As a detective and not a police sniper in prone position with a rifle center of mass is about the best you can expect with a handgun. Also as a detective, he is valued for his mind not his ninja skills.
    This standard is not unrealistic. He likely pulled his gun in a situation that didn't warrant it, escalated the situation and had it taken from him out of instinct by the guy with a gun pulled on him. Detective could have retreated and the guy still would have been caught later. He was caught later anyways, the scuffle did nothing. If he had ninja skills it would have had no better outcome than just retreating.
     

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