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[ClutchFans] Training Camp Footage - Day 4

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Oct 5, 2012.

  1. Jenopogi

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    You in the game? Watching it live. Cool:cool:
     
  2. King Boo

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    What's funny is at Golden State, Lin was known as a pesky, ball hawk defender. Only in NY did the narrative do a 180.

    A few Facts:
    1) Lin was 7th among guards in steals and 15th in blocks. Strong rebounder.
    2) Knicks gave up 2.1 less points per 100 when Lin was in the line up.
    3) Held opposing player to 37.8% shooting, well below average.
     
  3. pnr

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    He does have a propensity to get steals, but his man defense is the problem. The fewer points given up with Lin on the floor probably had a lot to do with Tyson Chandler playing with Lin most of the time.
     
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    Great to hear Martin beasting like his former self and Patpat finding his groove

    We all star noww
     
  5. luden

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    other pg's have defensive bigs on their team, so let's discredit them too.

    Team featuring @ChandlerParsons, @JLin7, @AsikOmer, @GForbz3 and @jlamb pulling away in 4Q. Turned close game into rout, not up 18.
     
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    101-79 final. I think Kevin Martin, @pdpatt, @GForbz3 and @Jlamb stood out the most to me. Lin, Asik also looked good.
     
  7. King Boo

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    I guess Rondo sucks at defense too because he's got Garnett cleaning up his messes. See how easy making statements like that are without anything to back it up?
     
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    Nice to hear Forbes is doing well, didn't think he was going to get minutes at all but think he might be the first off the bench at SF.
     
  9. King Boo

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    Random fact I found while searching for stats:

    Jameer Nelson gives up a net +3.9 points while playing with Dwight Howard (net -6.8 points). Yikes.
     
  10. RV6

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    Looks like a full game....they better not give the home crowd the usual 20 mins of a bad globetrotter impression..
     
  11. pnr

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    I was merely commenting on a possible explanation for the fewer points per possession. I watched all of Lin's games and I am a big fan of his but even I can see his man defense needs work. I am not saying his defense sucks. You need to take your homer glasses off.
     
  12. King Boo

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    Perfectly fine that we disagree on the young man's defense. It's just that you've posted right after me multiple times in this one thread directly contradicting the stats I just posted with an easy, throwaway one-liner. Not once have you backed it up with anything besides your "eye test."
     
  13. King Boo

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    One "possible explanation" is that Lin's defense is better than your eye test suggests. The stats bear that out.
     
  14. MrButtocks

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    I thought Lin was known as a plus defender. That's where he made his mark in summer league. And watching him with the Knicks I thought he was average at worst. He's no liability.
     
  15. pnr

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    Agree to disagree then.
     
  16. Easy

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    Think of him as a 7-ft Chuck Hayes.
     
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    Patterson posting up against Asik and score. Looking confident. Very encouraging.
     
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    While Patterson doing his thing is a plus, it's at the expense of Asik. Isn't Asik supposed to be a blocking machine?
     
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    Morris still not showing much promise. He doesn't seem to have much confidence...

    Can't get em all! Lol
     
  20. sidestep

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    I think +/- stats are BS. It gives the misleading impression that it isolates the effect of a single variable, but it's far from that.

    Anyway, it is indeed remarkable how a narrative about a player can change radically in one season.
     

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