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[ClutchFans] Luring Roy Hibbert Could Be Tough Task for Rockets

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Apr 2, 2012.

  1. flamingdts

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    They could be denying it for many results, maybe because that wasn't actually what Morey said but Hibbert misinterpreted it.

    Either way, this argument comes down to people's opinion of the D-league. I honestly doubt the "people skills" argument would come in hand if we had more attention towards the D-League and it was a more prominent area of development.

    I agree. It just seems like a conflict between self-entitlement and pampering to a rookie.

    Not all players who perform well in the D-league will perform well in the NBA, but I think it's fair to say that all players who performed well in the NBA have performed well in the D-league if they were ever sent there.

    I mean Jeremy Lin was recalled 3 days after he dropped a triple double in the D-league. Aaron Brooks averaged 20/5/5 in the D-league.

    Work hard in the D-league and you'll get your chance in the NBA.
     
  2. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    Awesome !

    DD
     
  3. dobro1229

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    Yes, I do. Everyone takes things out of context. Do you really think the Rockets think low of him if they are said to be heavily pursuing him in free agency this summer? Obviously they liked him then, and rightfully just thought he needed more work. Which he did.

    The way he makes it seem when pressed about it in interviews is as if the Rockets came to him and told him.. "hey kid, we really dont think your good enough for the NBA, but we think you would be good on our D-League team" Obviously, he took things out of context, and got his poor feelings hurt.

    This isnt Watergate we are talking about DD. This is a franchised basketball team. The lives of their basketball players arent on the line here. They are treated very, very, very well. Much better than you or I are treated in our jobs. So get over it and stop being such a whiner.
     
  4. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    Let's avoid the enevitable, whiner vs apologist argument, mmmkay?

    DD
     
  5. jopatmc

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    Tell me about their sordid history of lying, Dada. I've been following this team since before Murphy, Rudy T and Kermit and I must've missed it. I'd like to know what it is that you are referring to when you say "history of lying about stuff."
     
  6. CCorn

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    Murray said he was going to make us contenders! He's a dirty liar!
     
  7. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    It is in this thread, at least a few examples of it.

    DD
     
  8. jopatmc

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    There ain't nothing here but misrepresentation of what Morey has said.

    What history is there of this front office lying?
     
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  9. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    Ok, for giggles, and to stop derailing this fine thread.

    GO ROCKETS !!!

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    DD
     
  10. dobro1229

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    Ive never made apologies, but I do try to state logic and reasonability. Its just that a good majority of the time I like things to just sort of....umm... make sense. Most of the time the Rockets decisions make sense whether you think you would have done things differently or not isn't relevant.

    All of your arguments come in a vacuum with perfect world scenarios where DD has no salary cap, can make moves happen with the flick of your wrist, and has the sensativity of Oprah.
     
  11. coachbadlee

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    I too have been critical of some moves that they have made in the past. For the most part they have all been sensible moves. You can't fault the team for things that happen afterward. At least thats what i keep telling myself after i finish blaming the team for what happened afterwards.:confused:
     
  12. kjayp

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    So first u b**** cause/if Morey was honest and told Hibbert he may end up in the D league....

    Then u insinuate that the Rox have a lengthy history of lying....

    Man, you find something wrong with any possible scenario... lol
     
  13. jopatmc

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    Ok, I'm calling my dog off.

    It's obvious you can't back up that "history of lying" claim.
     
  14. sergio

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    Teach me. What does PR mean/stand for?
     
  15. kjayp

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    public relations
     
  16. dobro1229

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    Right, and they should be held accountable, but you just cant take things totally out of context in order to win your argument. Their decisions arent made in a perfect world like they are on Clutchfans.

    Take the Jeremy Lin instance for example-

    -Should Morey be held accountable for letting go of Lin? Yes.

    -However, keep in mind that if the Rockets didnt pick him up in the first place off Waivers and give him playing time the last two games of the preseason, he probably would have never ended up with the Knicks and might have taken an offer overseas first.

    My point is you cant just bash them for one thing while totally taking out of account the other thing they did in the first place to get them in that position. That seems to happen alot on here just for sake of one side of the argument, and drives me insane.
     
  17. tosweet68

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    I guarantee you that if we kept Lin, there would be a large number of people currently bashing Morey for keeping another injury prone player now that he is lost for the season.
     
  18. CCorn

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    ^^ He never would have played enough to get injured.
     
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    not defending DD. But the way they handled yao last season, when even the fuhrer questioned the whole " five consecutive minutes strategy".
    what about bringing in the super talents of squid and the dream without the fuhrer knowing? "what am I supposed to do with them?" Still the best quote.
    It's all the small stuff they do and say.

    Players, both the divas and the peasants all want to feel like they belong. Somehow maury makes them feel uncomfortable. Maybe it's the michael buble concerts.

    I actually like what we're doing and I know Maury will get us there. but it's not difficult to see why today's over sensitive players might be put off by the nfl front office style/ approach by maury.

    In the end, I hope $$$ talks the loudest. 6 million euros should be enough to make the goran forget he was almost traded. =) He must be a rocket!



    Also, What bugs me is lack of excitement by everyone for this playoff race. I recall in 2004 it had been five seasons since we made the playoffs; yet we had personalities dressing up as chickens, standing on the roof of buildings until we clinched the 8th seed. We ended up no. 7 playing la. You have to start somewhere.
     
  20. roslolian

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    Hmm maybe a bit late to the party but what the hell, my 2 cents:

    1) The Rox were picking in the 20's that year. Forgive my lack of understanding, but why the hell would Hibbert feel like the Rox were dissing him when they had Yao Ming to man the C spot and Mutombo to back him up? Personally, I do think the Rox asked him if they would play in the D league as an interview question, it seems ridiculous to me Hibbert would make stuff up on his own. But then again, what were the Rox supposed to do? Let him rot on the benche or give him minutes over Yao and Deke? Please :rolleyes:

    2) 12 and 8 is the best Hibbert could do when he's motivated? He should be thanking the Rox then, because if the Rox didn't give him the motivation by "dissing" him he'd probably put up 5 and 2. He may be an all star, but IMHO that has to do more with the lack of big men than his own ability, kinda' like the year Jamal Magloire got into the All star game. I mean, there was a time when 12 and 8 was expected out of every starting big man in the L, now its all star worthy? SMH.

    3) How good is Hibbert, really? I know he's got the hype, but let's face it, he's just lucky Bogut is injured and Monroe is still developing or else he wouldn't have gotten that All Star nod. IMHO, Marcin Gortat is a superior big man, and he's making 6M a year. Rather than overpaying this dude in the hopes that the Pacers won't match, I think its better to trade for Gortat instead.
     

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