[ClutchFans] Keep an eye on Deron Williams, because the Rockets sure will

here's a question: if lowry keeps it up (of course that's a big if) and say makes all-star reserve, would howard consider pairing with lowry instead?

 

Plz do not compare sacramento with Houston. I live in sac I should know.

 

Now here would be a reversal of fortune:

Houston trades Lowry and all four 09 draft busts (after no options are picked up, making them expiring contracts), for DWill. Everyone revels in Morey's prowess in basically trading Lowry for DWill straight up, and lining up to take the lead in the D12 sweepstakes.

But then NJ has the cap space to sign both DWill and D12 this summer!

NJ lineup:

Lowry/Farmar
DWill/Brooks
Morrow/James
Lopez/J. Williams
DHoward/Lopez/Petro

 

How is that a "big if"? guy did it pretty much all last season after Brooks went down and appears to have even improved in the offseason. You can rest assured he will keep it up. Whether he makes the all-star team is out of his control.

 

He said cap room also attracts stars, I gave him an example of a team with tons of cap space.

 

i wish we can do some lopsided deal where we only have to give jordan hill and flynn for deron.

 

If it means getting other superstars here, then yes.

Williams is a superstar anyways. He can create his own shot, which Lowry cannot do.

 

I'd rather keep Lowry. Sorry Clutch.

 

I like Lowry, but Williams is much better and will be much better throughout his career. No way we should pass on opportunity to get him

 

No

Lowry has respect here in Houston. He has no respect outside of Houston, that's why he is one of the most underrated players in this league

 

Howard is looking to win a ring. While Lowry is a borderline all-star, Deron has the potential to be one of the best. He wont be enticed to come here cause of Lowry alone. If Rockets make a surprise run and show something in the playoffs then Howard might consider Houston.

Another thing that should be considered is the lack of fan support. Everyone knows Howard has a thing for publicity and showmanship. That could possibility play a factor. The attendance record was even bad when we had a healthy Yao/Tmac.

 

No way would I do this trade. I would trade Kevin Martin and whatever else needed for him though and have A Deron and Kyle backcourt.

 

To put things into perspective...

Deron's is about a 9.5 in terms of skill level as a PG.
Kyle is probably at about 8.9.
The difference is between a legit top 12 player when healthy vs an all-star caliber player under the right conditions.

Here's the kicker though.
Kyle makes 1/3 of what Deron makes and is younger/healthier.
All things equal, Kyle is the better value because he allows you to spend ~$10 million dollars that you wouldn't have otherwise due to his bargain contract.

If you can assure a deron/howard combo, you do it 10 out of 10 times.
However, if Dwight is not available, then you move on and try to build around all-star caliber Lowry and his bargain contract.

 

Here's the way I see to acquire both guys.

You send Orlando.....

Lowry, Martin, Dally, Scola, and Thabeet....and you get back Dwight, Hedo, JRich, QRich, Duhon....all Orlando's worst contracts. This leaves us expiring deals of Flynn/Hill/TWill/Dragic to package with Morris/Patterson/Budinger for DWill and Morrow or whoever else NJ wants to dump along with Dwill.

Oh, give NJ the lottery protection so they have a shot at a lottery pick. And give Orlando the rights to the Knicks pick or a future first rounder.

DWill/Duhon
Lee/JRich
Hedo/Chandler/QRich
Dwight/Smith (Dleague)
Adrien/Chandler



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IMO, this is why we are running Dragic out there, to pump up his trade value. Perhaps a team like NJ or Orlando considers him an assett that they want to sign to a long-term deal.

 

I'd rather trade for Kevin Love.

 

I'm hoping we could keep Dally in that scenario.

We'd be the Orlando Magic with two of their biggest weaknesses covered: a star wing / pg and a legit backup shotblocking center.

 

Deron Williams isn't even a superstar. He's like Melo. Superstar only because people say it. Lowry is younger and has only kept improving each year. If we trade Lowry for Williams we're f###### ourselves. Trade Martin for him but Lowry...NO WAY

 

It's much harder to sign somebody to go with your all-star point guard when he makes 18 million instead of $6 miillion. Do the math, you'll see.

Oh, and if stars attract other stars, Willilams wouldn't be on the block in the first place.

 

I'd rather take the chance of "f###### ourselves" instead of standing pat and hoping Lowry can somehow keep his numbers up and attracting other stars.

 

You left out the part where you send contracts out in a trade. That's usually how it works. Sure, he'll make around 18 a year, but subtract lowry's 5.8, plus whatever else you need to trade away to make it happen, and signing another star player is very realiatic.

How is New Jersey supposed to get other players when they're only other trading piece is injured? The only reason Dwight has New Jersey on his list is because of D Will.