ClutchFans Game Thread: Rockets @ Warriors 1/21/2015

People are making too big of a deal with this, he's trying to fire up his team mates inside the locker room, you can say things like that. If he said that during an interview than Id' be like, stop talking and shut your mouth.

 

This game shows why Curry will win MVP, but also why ironically James Harden is more vaulable to his team and/or the better overall player. Curry is having an amazing season, but he is on a team perfect for him. Imagine if Harden could pick and choose when he wants to be a killer. Its really not even close. Trade Harden for curry and were prob around the same level of the suns.

 

What do you expect him to say? You get your team fired up anyway possible.

 

Rondo brings defense, toughness and leadership. Josh Smith and Dwight Howard = turnovers and bad shot selection ...

 

lmao.

 

Spoiler

 

If you put Curry on the Rockets playing under Mchale, he would be far less efficient and we probably be 8th seed or struggling to get in just due to the lack of offensive strategies and relying on a curry ISO to get open looks which he's not nearly as good as Harden. But, put Harden on the warriors and the warriors are not as good either because he's not nearly the shooter curry is and would stop the ball movement with ISO just because that's how he plays his game.

 

10-9 last 19 games

Turnovers a lot unforced what is with this ridiculous threaded bounce pass that either is a kicked ball or deflected by hands or stolen why is this a constant every single game.

We run no high post play/s no catch hardly an on ball no mid range jumper from the action up high (aka gasol Memphis) no passing big up high foul line extended lack of capable or willing mid range shooters for whatever reasons.

Jacking up 3 after 3 no crashing boards too many players in catch and shoot mode no trailers or rotation back in D.

Finch barely says anything on the bench him and Bickerstaff need to show more energy and life get into it be seen to be doing something motivate inspire energise coach for god sake do something. McHale get angry get a tech get thrown out get into it man don't be laughing and joking on the bench to start the 3rd quarter.

Too many comfortable people with there situation content no urgency contract all set got my extension whatever well damn well earn it stop loafing give us so ingenuity in the game plan run a play that no one has seen.

Definitely need a PG to effectively take charge of the offense and run the plays and right distribution of the ball maybe this will help reduce the careless turnovers when is enough going to be enough and accountability takes place proper accountability. Its not happening turnovers are sky high.

What actually goes on with the game film when its reviewed analysed and rewatched and broken down be interesting to know.

 

I thought Morey was supposed to be some sort of genius. Why rely on an offensive system of dumping it into the post when your center can't consistently score in the paint or make free throws and shooting over 40% of your shots from beyond the arc when you don't have any really good 3-point shooters?

We keep clamoring for Dwight to switch from postups to PnR, but he never does. Why not? What is the sin in attempting more 18 and 20-footers instead of 3-pointers? Why is it such a bad idea to bring in players who can slash to the hoop rather than just stand on the perimeter and jack up 3's(especially when they're not good at it)? And how hard is it to run plays that involve movement, picks, back picks, multiple passes? Unless you have LeBron James and Dwayne Wade on your team, you ain't gonna win in this league with nothing but ISOs. One would think the disastrous Steve Francis era would've at least taught Les that much.

 

Feigen called out the Rockets staff for releasing that pregame huddle video.

 

Harden is right because the rockets have been playing terrible. Okc exposed how you can beat Warriors right before we lost to them twice. They aren't that great really.

 

Morey has already identified that Harden and DMo are our best offensive weapons. No mention of Dwight. He got Brewer for his slashing ability. He tried to get Goran to be our 2nd playmaker.

He knows the holes on our team. Waiting for the right team to bite. It could have been Les' decision to extend McHale, not Morey.

It's on McHale to decide on the rotation. We still have TJones coming back, and Canaan, Johnson and Capela with RGV. If he sees something is not working, it's on McHale to make drastic changes with the rotation.

 

I totally agree with all this well said

 

If I were McHale, I would begin limiting Howard's minutes and play Dorsey more. I would bench Smith for a couple of games, and go back to Papa as the backup 4.

I would also play Canaan again to take some of the minutes of Bev.

Early in the season, it was the young guys who were hungry for PT who gave max effort whenever they came in. They could give some pep to the starters again at this point of the season.

 

I love how people are trying to minimize the beatdown Curry and Warriors put on us..and within a span of a week...we were beatdown twice by basically the best team in the NBA. The Rockets have lost by 11, 12, 13, and 25 to this team.

We were embarassed by a team Harden thinks is just "not that good." Apparently, Green and Bogut got that memo in regards to the comments that were made before game 3 at the TC in preparation for game 4. The Warriors used those comments to just prove how far the Rockets really are. The Rockets just do not have the firepower these guys have, and they play defense. The Rockets were careless yet again, with Dwight Howard having so many turnovers in the post.

The best lineup we played with last night was Kostas, Brewer, Dorsey, Terry and Shved. They competed...they didnt care who took the shot, but they played aggressive ball. The fact is that aside from James Harden, our starters just suck, and the first options off the bench just have no chemistry. The Rockets will only go as far as Dwight AND James take them. SO far...James has evolved into an MVP candidate...and Howard is blaming his knees.

The Rockets desperately need help along side James Harden. The team has to find a way to create easier shots for James. If there is a trade opportunity, Morey needs to pull the trigger. We may have to lose winning basketball players (ie. Terry, Kostas) to get something done, but things can no longer just remain status quo.

But here is the biggest truth of all and something every Rocket fan has to ask themselves, are these Rockets GOOD ENOUGH TO BEAT ANY west team 4 times in a 7 game playoff series? The answer should be a resounding NO. --These Rockets dont match up well with LAC, GSW (and will get out-coached by DAL, SAS)...That leaves PHX, OKC, Memphis, and Portland, all of whom have the talent and depth and show they can beat anyone at any time.

 

You c***tease, you. :grin:

 

I'm okay with losing under this scenario ONLY

Never post up Dwight
Always post up Dmo
PnR with Dwight/Harden

How either one of those plays not ran every possession? Idiotic.

 

Simply put, GS is a superior team, but I've never seen such poor transition defense in my life. They outscored us by 15+ in transition, right? At least I recall that being the case at half. We won't win if that's how we play defense. Credit GS though - they were pushing it and causing havoc, hitting the open man for 3s all game.

Embarrassing performance by Bev, DMo, Smith (who basically quit on the team and is averaging around 3 TOs in very little time), Howard, and Ariza. Please play Brewer more.

 

Steph should have been thrown out. It is much worse to threaten to fight someone, than to say potty words. But refs do discriminate.

Anyways, the Rockets have to do something about the inefficient play of Ariza. He is our starting SF, and looks like one of the worst in the league. He isn't even 50% of the player he was last season for the Wizards. I wonder if this has to do with a PG issue or if he just really is this bad.

 

It was definitely Les' call to extend McHale. He deserves our wrath for that. But this is Morey's system. 3-pointers, free throws, and ISOs. So he deserves heat for failing to acquire 3-point shooters, loading the team with guys who can't make free throws(Dwight, Smith, Dorsey, D-Mo, T-Jones), and saddling us with only one player(Harden) who can get his own shot.

If he was unable to get the players he needed to fit the system he wants(which I'd argue BTW is not an offense designed for long playoff runs), then CHANGE THE DAMN SYSTEM! There's no law saying you have to jack up a bunch of 3's. No other team attempts as many 3's as we do. We shoot over 40% of our shots from behind the arc. That's insane even for a team loaded with great 3-point shooters and we have none.