all along I was talking about drives since he was being compared to steph & kyrie. best finisher at the rim is prolly a forward or center. so now I'm mentally deranged for saying Harden is the best scorer and producer off drives this year? nice try LOF
Yes there is. Harden is the best and it's definitive. Driving as often as he does creates amazing opportunities and he scores a lot when he does it. Your argument seems to be best is the highest percentage, but sometimes you hurt your team by not having Harden's driving abilities. The Celtics would be a much better team if they had Harden instead of Kyrie except that the Celtics would've had to give away a lot more than IT to make that happen. Harden is the MVP, Kyrie is a new toy on a new team who can't drive as well as James.
I don't have a strong opinion on Kyrie. Most of it is just eye test, and Kyrie does seem to be more agile, dynamic, and contort his body in ways that Harden can't. But Harden is stronger and is better at finishing through contact. Also, it's fair to say that the consensus opinion is Kyrie being the best finisher around the basket among small guards. Maybe that opinion is wrong, but it does exist. Also, here's Kyrie's shot chart this season Kyrie has higher FG% around the basket while attempting more shots than Harden.
WTF do you think was meant by 'best finisher at the rim'? scoring around the basket by other means than drives is not 'finishing'? what is your IQ?
last year he was up there in charges draw as lebron, ariza, curry so have to give him some credit for the effort and sacrifice considering he was the sole superstar of the team right? http://stats.nba.com/players/hustle...016-17&SeasonType=Regular Season&CF=MIN*GE*30
Please stop talking about the past and answer what you directly quoted me initially saying. Because you were the one who went off topic initially. Let's swerve back into the correct lane and not go on these tangents shall we?
you compared curry and kyrie so I assumed you weren't talking about post-ups and put backs stop being nit picky harden is the best scorer off drives that's all I said and meant all along. that's where I based my 11.2 points for harden and that's where you based your 8.4 points for Lebron stop moving goal posts
I didn't talk about Kyrie and Steph at first, Drogba did, and I was just responding to him. What I said from the beginning is 'finishing ability at the rim'. So anyone with common sense would know that I'm talking about general scoring ability around the basket. Again, check you IQ.
my IQ is fine so you admit you mentioned kyrie & steph to me and compared harden's 11.2 points to lebron's 8.4 points off drives? we went back and forth on that
If we used your IQ to give out awards, Clint Capela would be the MVP of the league for his FG%. Also are you like 12? Grown men with the ability to think in a complex way don't typically ask about IQ. A person with any kind of thinking skillz can assess someone's brain without asking about an IQ. Go away Harvard fan. We don't employ your Jerry Lin anymore.
because that was the only evidence you presented. I actually track Harden's stats very closely, even more than you do. So I know Harden's shooting % at the rim is not the best in the league. And that is why I disagreed with you in the first place. It was never limited to 'drives.'
I thought it was. I showed my numbers based on drives and you went off on that yeah harden, kyrie and steph aren't bigs sono one expects them to compete with Giannis and Lebron on post-ups and put backs
Capela can't create his own shot. LeBron actually can, and he can score while driving as well as post ups, put backs, etc. So probably he's the best finisher at the rim.
Vindicator thinks that nit picking on harden is not good at post-ups and put backs will vindicate his idol Lin
so you think 'best finisher at the rim' doesn't include post ups and put backs? those are not considered 'finishing'?
LeBron can but he doesn't all the time. It's like you're expecting LeBron's back door cut dunks are the same as Harden's drives when 3 defenders are in the lane. Give it up. You're losing a logical argument. Sorry we're winning so much. Clearly this offends you deeply.
1. you were specifically talking about harden's drive 2. you were comparing him to kyrie and steph so I responded that Harden is the best scorer & point producer off drives can you STFU now LOF?
clearly you should check my post history, because all of them show me being really happy when this team wins Also, LeBron attempts way more shots at the rim than Harden, and has 15% higher FG%. Where's the argument?
