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ClutchFans Game Thread: Grizzlies @ Rockets 2/20/2012

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Feb 20, 2012.

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  1. Mr. Dominant

    Mr. Dominant Contributing Member

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    My new nickname for our beast Lowry:

    :grin: LOWR-annosaurus Rex! :grin:
     
    #401 Mr. Dominant, Feb 20, 2012
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  2. daywalker02

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    That must be a really frustrating thing to watch Pau Gasol Grizzlies swept again and again in the first round.
     
    #402 daywalker02, Feb 20, 2012
  3. STR8Thugg

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    What? Do you realize that Rudy Gay shoots a higher percentage and plays better defense? Not to mention he can actually create his own shot and he has made a decent amount of clutch plays in his career. Really, he is a much better player than KMart.
     
    #403 STR8Thugg, Feb 20, 2012
  4. Mr. Clutch

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    Rudy Gay does not play defense.

    Rudy Gay creates bad shots.

    Kevin Martin TS%- 56.1
    Rudy Gay TS%- 50.8
     
    #404 Mr. Clutch, Feb 20, 2012
  5. IzakDavid13

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    His team lost today...Martin's team won! #whoop
     
    #405 IzakDavid13, Feb 20, 2012
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    CBud has a big problem defending RGay (RNot). He probably would have lit Cbud up like a Christmas tree.
     
    #406 alethios, Feb 20, 2012
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    I AGREE! I LOVE ME SOME LEE!!

    I think:
    PG - Lowry
    SG - Lee
    PF - Patterson

    is a pretty good start. We just need a better forward and center.
    LETS GO DWIGHT HOWARD!
     
    #407 DUHK, Feb 20, 2012
  8. solid

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    Watched Parsons all game, focused on him. The kid plays some impressive defensive. He just seems to know where to be and what to do. His box score may not stand out, but he plays some serious basketball. Very heady player.
     
    #408 solid, Feb 20, 2012
  9. STR8Thugg

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    I dunno about all that "Rudy Gay does not play defense." But I said he plays better defense than Martin, which you just cannot argue. Also, not sure how TS% works but I believe it takes into account free throw %? If so, then that would make sense because Martin is a better free throw shooter. Either way, I would much rather have Rudy Gay. At least he is more of a go to guy down the stretch than Martin is.

    ROCKETS WON! So I'm Happy!
     
    #409 STR8Thugg, Feb 20, 2012
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    That is completely beside the point. My point is that Rudy is a better player than Martin, and I would rather have him.

    I am super pumped about the win though. Memphis always gives us fits. That was a big W tonight. Lowry stepped up like a beast.
     
    #410 STR8Thugg, Feb 20, 2012
  11. larsv8

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    Rudy Gay is garbage.
     
    #411 larsv8, Feb 20, 2012
  12. OremLK

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    He's not garbage but some people here WAY overrate him. He's just a solid roleplayer, nothing too special. I've seen a few people talk like he's the next coming of Jordan :confused:

    He's about what you get when you trade away Shane Battier. I'll give him credit for maximizing his potential, but you don't get star potential for a roleplayer/glue guy.
     
    #412 OremLK, Feb 20, 2012
  13. Mr. Clutch

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    Yes, TS% accounts for free throws and 3 pters.

    Agreed on the defense. Gay is better but still not really good.
     
    #413 Mr. Clutch, Feb 20, 2012
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    At equal money, you are probably right. But...

    Martin is making 11.5 mil this year and 12.5 next year and I can only imagine the next contract he signs will be somewhat close, but less than what he is making now.

    Rudy is making 15 mil this year than 16.5, 17.9 and 19.3 through 2014/2015.

    Production just doesn't match that money. Not worth it.
     
    #414 jordnnnn, Feb 20, 2012
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    Wow is that true? I did not realize he made that much. Definitely overpaid...
     
    #415 STR8Thugg, Feb 20, 2012
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    The definition of a role player/ glue guy isn't 19 and 7. If that's the case, the Rockets don't even have role players, we just have a bunch of scrubs... He is a good stater in this league but as I just found out, highly overpaid.
     
    #416 STR8Thugg, Feb 20, 2012
  17. OremLK

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    He averages 19 and 6, not 19 and 7. And 19 and 6 doesn't tell the whole story. Gay is too inefficient. He has a lot of games where he hurts his team with chucking. He rebounds and defends better than Martin but he wastes a lot more possessions with missed shots, missed free throws, and turnovers.

    Martin's PER this season is 17.8. Gay's is 17.2. Martin's having a down season too. His career PER is higher.

    They're probably about the same level player overall. They are both good roleplayers. Neither of them is a star.
     
    #417 OremLK, Feb 20, 2012
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    Also, I didn't call Gay a glue guy, I called him a roleplayer. Battier was a glue guy. Gay is a scoring roleplayer like Martin.
     
    #418 OremLK, Feb 20, 2012
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    I especially loved how he used his footwork and space to force Gay under the basket and forced a bad pass for a huge turnover toward the end of the game. There are veterans in this league that don't know how to do that properly.
     
    #419 Mashing, Feb 20, 2012
  20. daywalker02

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    Lol garbage he is not, just role player he is not.

    He was in conversation for allstar reserves... That has to be Top 25 players in the league.... dear OremLK
     
    #420 daywalker02, Feb 20, 2012
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