I think it goes both ways. If you disagree & feel that he hasn't been downright sucking & you support your opinions with facts & thought provoking analysis you get labeled a LOF. It takes time for me to formulate my thoughts & provide data & I genuinely enjoy feedback positive & negative. & for people to just brush it off as oh dumb LOF is annoying. There are people who are legitimately just trolling and that takes away from the overall enjoyment of the GARM. All the general labelling just has to stop. Goodness. For example, in the Patterson thread sidestep provided a legitimate reason as to why he doesn't like Patterson. And her opinion made sense. But then somebody lashed out at him calling him a LOF because apparently she was saying that Patt gets all of his buckets because of the attention paid to Lin (which wasn't actually what sidestep said) Then someone else was like chill you didn't even read the full post & sidestep came out & defended his initial post & it was obvious that the person who lashed out just got carried away with this LOF nonsense. In my opinion it was just a issue of miscommunication but just an example that stuck out in my mind. (sorry for calling the person out whoever you are). There are people on this board who spend their existence battling LOF but are silent on the LOH (and I mean the ones that are legitimately trolling). Honestly I just put both parties (LOF LOH) on my ignore list. I hate ignoring people because I genuinely like to hear others opinions but it got to the point one day where I was hating the GARM & i didn't want that so I forced my self to do it. Like I have said before all the broad generalizations need to stop LOF & LOH. And people need to genuinely at least to pretend to root for the ENTIRE team (including Lin) some people aren't. Some people only post when Lin has a bad game & all they post about are either overly negative things about Lin. In my opinion the LOF aren't as big of a problem as they were before because a lot of them are genuinely turning into Rocket fans. But the constant labeling on both sides just turns people off. And don't even get me started on the people that consistently make references & say newbs won't understand, my goodness grow up. Just a few thoughts to consider.
You are half correct. Yes, the Lin hate is no different from the hate of all the other guys. So Lin fans who joined recently should take note of that. That said, for some people, hatred of a player goes beyond being critical of the player's poor performance. There are X-only-haters on this board. And you know who they are.
You guys are telling 12 year olds to stop acting like 12 year olds. Sometimes, it just takes awhile for people to grow up.
For Starters I dont think it has to do with Lin vs Harden... supporters more so to do with the fact Harden was stinking it up even worse than Lin was this last game... but Lin was sitting...and Harden was still out there chucking away... in no way do any LOFs excuse Lins play... I personally think Lin stunk it up last night and should be have been sitting..even more in the game... but the same should be said of Harden... and that is where I see the difference in the hate... for Lin the hate is because he dosent belong in the NBA... and is probably only there because of his color and marketing appeal... and thats what we have to deal with every game he plays... where as I feel Harden can have a crappy game like this and no one is going to think he is a scrub... or dosent belong in the NBA
Watch out LOF, its a trap! <a href="http://imgur.com/1Fwoe"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/1Fwoe.jpg" title="Hosted by imgur.com" alt="" /></a> then.. Spoiler
Jeremy Lin must have been the happiest person on the entire Rockets bench after the victory, and Lin fans are nothing but praises for Tony Douglas, yet what is up with all these Lin haters? These Lin haters complain that Lin fans only care about Lin and not about the Rockets, yet all they care about is ripping on Lin. The hypocrisy is sickening.
Difference is Harden continued to attack the basket which created free throws and open opportunities for the rest of the team. Not to mention that if ANY player on the team is going to turn it on and start hitting shots it's Harden. You have to keep one of our 2 play makers out there and if you are going to bet on one guy to start making shots, it's Harden over Lin 100 times out of 100.
All that matters is that the Rockets won. And we can applaud the role players who stepped up their games, hope that next game the starters shoot better, and stock up appropriate beverages for viewing Houston Rockets basketball!
As a Lin fan I definitely agree with this. If we didn't have Harden then Lin would be in there, but we do have Harden and he's the better player and we need one of our 2 play makers out there with the group that was making their shots. I believe Lin could have handled it, but we'll never know. He has in the past, but was a small sample size.
Exactly, we won. Yet there are some who would rather point out that since Lin wasn't playing, Harden shouldn't have been either since they both were shooting poorly. Even though the decision led to a team victory, there are some who just can't stand that there boy wasn't a part of it. The funny thing is Lin is nothing like some of his overzealous fans. You could see how happy he was for his team, didn't care that he had to sit. Didn't matter that Harden was still out there even though he couldn't hit a shot. He knows he has to play better and isn't giving excuses or questioning the coaching decisions.
The war over Jeremy Lin will always be more important than winning, losing, or "sports". You mere mortals do not understand.
Great post. I thought your post is not about Clutchfans posters getting along. It is about our nation's Congress vs. current admin. A "fiscal cliff" and such. And many other similar circumstances..........:grin:
I personally don't like or dislike Jeremy Min. I was hugely upset that we resigned him however given that we would not have had to if we kept him around last year instead of dumping him to keep that hot garbage Flynn. I personally think his stint in Linsanity was by far overrated by both media and fans and do not think he will ever reach that level again. That being said, I don't think he is a bad PG, just not a great one. I will be happy if he ends up averaging 12/6. As far as the LoH VS LoF, I don't think there are many actual LoH as Jeremy Lin is NOWHERE NEAR GOOD ENOUGH to have any real haters outside of knee jerkers or racists crap heads. A lot of the "haters" I have seen are Rockets fans still recovering from our last wave of YoF and ToF as well as the residue ToF's who still insist on posting T-Mac China threads in GARM and are simply tired of seeing fans jumping on the board who put a player before the team. Do I think Lin can ever become great? Honestly no, at least not right now. Do I hope that he does? Only if he is in a Rockets's jersey, otherwise I don't give a damn how well or poor he does.
I don't think there are as many Lin only haters on Clutchfans as some people believe. I do believe there are a lot of people that have become Lin only fan haters. It's not the player, it's the players fans. When a player doesn't play well, that player is going to get criticized, it doesn't matter who that player is. I think early in this season, LOF's felt that Lin was being singled out for poor play when others were not. There may be some truth to that, but Lin is a very high profile player that signed a big contract, so all eyes are on him right now and he will probably get more than his fair share of the blame when things don't go well. It may not be fair, but that's the way it is for all the high profile players. I will admit that I have found the LOF's to be very annoying. Game thread comments, and game analysis that constantly focuses only on Lin and not the team as a whole is tiresome. Constantly praising every move Lin makes on the floor, while pointing out every flaw of other Rocket players is unnecessary. Second guessing the coach every time Lin is taken out of the game for a rest is not needed. Calling the coach racist or stupid because you don't like that Tony Douglas is getting some minutes is uncalled for. Longtime Rocket fans want Lin to succeed, not fail. The coaches are giving Jeremy Lin the bulk of the minutes at point guard, because they do believe in him. But that doesn't mean he's always going to be on the floor at all times. I think we saw last night that Tony Douglas is capable of playing well, and we have to let the coach be a coach, and decide when to play people without the constant second guessing.
Agree with you for everything about Lin save for the part highlighted in bold that I took the liberty of tweaking.
Its like the fighting in the middle east, it will never stop no matter how many peace treaties are signed.
