[Correctional Post] The poster above, while seemingly to speak with authority, actually does not know what he is talking about. Water vapor does indeed account for 95% of the greenhouse effect. Prior to the industrial revolution Co2 and Water vapor is what made life possible on this planet by keeping the atmosphere warm enough. Without it the average temperature on the planet would be -18c. Right wing conservative depend on reducing science into "common sense" and "conventional wisdom" which says that incremental changes don't have impact. It doesn't take a climate scientist to understand that increasing the C02 concentration from 180ppm to 400ppm might contribute a few degrees to the average temperature - a few degrees that would not matter if there were no such thing as human civilization with 50% built on the edge of land dependent on a relatively continuous and stable climate. A few degrees which can make a 10 foot difference in sea level and change the climate significantly as there is this thing called equilibrium that the poster above clearly fails to comprehend. We live in a time when Mexican Industrialists think they know more than the best scientific minds in the world when it comes to a complex science. Would we trust a Mexican Industrialist to determine how to get a man to the moon? Build an atom bomb? Create a cure for cancer? Perform complex chemistry experiments? Yet when it comes to climate, anyone right-winger with a blog is suddenly the expert, not the 97% of scientists who do this for a living and explain why the post above is full of idiocy. Truly, this is the Age of Ignorance - where Mexican Industrials celebrate their Ignorance and flaunt it in front of others.
HO HO HO I look at the posts below from SL42 as progress. He is learning so rapidly. In a matter of mere minutes, he corrected his erroneous post about CO2 being 90% of the greenhouse gas effect, and now correctly states that water vapor is 95% of the effect. This is rapid learning, and how can the pupil not learn rapidly, he is being taught by the greatest teacher in all the land, The_Conquistador. Unfortunately he is starting from a highly uneducated position, so the process will take time. Trust the process. Begin to identify how the climate change zealots manipulate you. Develop defenses. Prosper. A mere two posts later! OWNED
Sweet Lou, good news. I read somewhere around 50% of very conservative Republicans now consider global warming a real thing. That's almost a 35-40 point jump in 2 years, when less than 10% acknowledge there is even warming. Among moderate Republicans (which probably now all prefer to called independent given the state of the GOP), number jump to 70%. There will also be deniers, but they are getting less everyday. I guess personal experience will eventually even turn most deniers around. (and of course, smart business folks that see the huge opportunity ahead.... will do so too)
[Basic Educational Post for TJ] The increase in Co2 is 90% of Climate Change, and 0.1% of the greenhouse effect. You are mistakenly thinking that the greenhouse effect = climate change
Yep. Circa 1:20 onward. <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/Ppqtlo8z95w" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> Spike Lee foresaw this thread, and so much more. :grin:
This is "daily weather" to y'all? Please, get real. http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/enso_update/wkxzteq.shtml http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/MJO/enso.shtml
Seriously? Co2 is 90% of climate change? WTF does that even mean? Even better.... .1% of the greenhouse gas EFFECT... WTF does that mean?
yeah, you posted 2016 weather data. Isn't that what you want to discuss? If you want to get real and talk about something else, post non-sarcastic threads. Cheers.
That Co2's contribution to each are very different because they are completely different (albeit related) phenomenon. The greenhouse effect is what keeps heat trapped in earth so that it's not a super frozen iceball. Global warming (and climate change from that) is about the equilibrium temperature associated with the greenhouse effect. Changes in CO2 aren't impacting whether or not the greenhouse effect is going to happen - because that is massive. But it does change the equilibrium point in a thermodynamic system - in other words it increases the amount of heat trapped enough to have significant consequences for humans. That's why Rojo's attempt to argue against climate change by finding local temperatures that disagree with it is non-sense because the planet doesn't warm evenly but rather it's the net amount of heat being trapped in the planet that's of concern, not the temperature in Houston.
Guess who said this: Spoiler The Donald http://time.com/4362393/donald-trump-supported-addressing-climate-change-before-calling-it-a-hoax/
This is so hilariously awesome... I just can't think of where to start. It's funnier than the Onion, until you think the guy actually has real responsibilities. Is it a joke? He couldn't really say that, right? Much less have such a third grade "understanding" of basic science.
This is the problem with ignorance - ignorant people don't even realize they are ignorant, and think they know more in a matter of minutes than people who study a subject for their entire lives.
Thank you -- that's actually kind of interesting. Thermodynamics is a long terrifying rabbit hole, and this makes me want to look up the original research he was referencing before getting all strange with the ideas. Wind is definitely not "gods way of balancing heat," whatever that means. LOL.
