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Clearing something up: The Rockets didn't choose Lin over Dragic or Lowry

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by meh, Nov 24, 2012.

  1. D-rock

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    Excellent article. Thanks for the link.
     
  2. OremLK

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    The reasons have already been explained.

    If Dragic is really good, then he declines his player option and gets a big payday.

    If he's bad, he accepts the player option and you have an overpaid player.

    Can't trade him as an expiring contract, because teams don't know whether he will accept or decline option.

    There is no good outcome for the team from having a player option... it is only bad no matter what, one way or another. That all together makes the player MUCH more difficult to trade and limits your flexibility.

    This is the last time I'm gonna explain it, so start paying attention.
     
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    I find it annoying... so so many posters dare I say Cowpokers

    assume LOFs are defending Lin.... Lin has been sucking it up...

    there are no LOFs defending his play...

    we are saying the Knicks are using him wrong...as a shooting guard vs Point Guard...

    now were fine with the Rox organization changing his role... they pay his salary

    now we wouldnt feel the need to defend his crappy shooting... if cowpokers didnt think this is the way that Lin was used in NY

    standing at the 3 point line waiting to shoot a 3... as if this is his style of play...
     
  4. meh

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    You are both correct. And my memory was wrong. My mistake.

    Oddly enough, this only bolsters my argument that the Rockets didn't choose Jeremy Lin over Dragic. Their first priority was to sign Dragic, and that failed. They simply picked backup plan Jeremy Lin. If Lin was Plan B, then obviously the Rockets prefered Plan A, which was Dragic.

    So my point that the Rockets let Dragic go because of player option makes even more sense now.
     
  5. cfansnet

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    Seriously, it's funny how some people are able to make judgements based on just a few games.

    Last season Lin outplayed Dragic and if you only used last season you would want Lin for sure.

    But this season, of the 10+ games so far, Dragic outplayed Lin and so some people have already made up their minds.

    Sigh... why don't we all wait until the season is over before we make up our minds on who is better.
     
  6. Air Langhi

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    As a starter Dragic avg more points and assists, avg .2 less rebounds and had a higher field goal and 3pt percentage.
     
  7. cfansnet

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    Exactly, and last season:

    "...[Dragic's] assist percentage of 32.5 was a solid one. His turnoever rate of 18.7 was quite good. And his shooting of 46 percent overall, 34 percent from three-point range, and 80 percent when he got to the line helped keep defenses honest. He started 28 games, with a total of 36 starts to his credit in his career.

    Most of those numbers pale in comparison to Lin's. His assist percentage, the most important job a point guard has, blows away Dragic's, checking in at 41 percent. His turnover rate was a bit higher, at 21.4 percent, but not nearly enough to even things out. And Lin's shooting was comparable (45 percent overall, 32 percent from three, 80 percent from the line) while he took an additional three shots every 36 minutes.

    Player efficiency rating captures the overall difference. League average is 15. Dragic was at 18 last year, 14.8 for his career. So the Suns are betting that last season marks a new level of play for him.

    Lin, at age 23, posted a PER of 19.9 last year. For reference, that ranked eighth in the league last season among point guards, just below the prime-level seasons of Steve Nash and Deron Williams. Nash didn't reach Lin's level of play until he was 27, though. And Williams did it in his age-23 season, just like Lin."

    Source: http://www.capitalnewyork.com/artic...ns-new-contract-bargain-goran-dragic-standard

    But these past 10+ games paint a different picture. So perhaps we can all wait a little longer before trying to judge their entire careers.
     
  8. MOFvsLOF

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  9. Panda23

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    Dragic took an offer for a team that recently gave up on him and traded him AND a pick for aaron brooks. No lowry = no toronto pick = no james harden..
     
  10. RedEyesKirby

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    I gave up explaining some time ago already. But good job taking the time to write it out again and again. Some people just have too much love for their players that they already complete forgot why player option is one of the most risky option to give to a player. Specially one who only started so little games.
     
  11. roxxy

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    I think the people who are guilty of this already made up there minds prior to the season even starting.
     
  12. Spiegel

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    How is this idiot still allowed to post. He calls texans and americans hick,rednecks, racist and every name in the book, but if someone says something about his asian ethnicity were called racist.
     
  13. larsv8

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    Speaking of point guards from the past, we should bring back Aaron Brooks. Much better player than Lin, can play off the ball and actually hit an open shot.

    Lin for Hayes/Brooks
     
  14. Fullcourt

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    If you'd do a tiny bit of research, you'd find that he's telling the truth. Lowry and Dragic had new teams before the Rockets and Lin made a deal.
     
    #134 Fullcourt, Nov 24, 2012
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    Over 10 games. SMALL SAMPLE SIZE. Standard dismissal for Linsanity. Double standard for Dragic fans.
     
  16. dream1222

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    so if the rockets gave Dragic the player option in 4th year and sign another max contract(maybe a PF?), they still have enough cap space to re-sign Parsons?
     
  17. Dreamin

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    If Lin is this and all that then how come he didnt get drafted?
     
  18. meh

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    You can go over the salary cap to re-sign your own players. So re-signing Parsons makes absolutely no difference in whatever the Rockets do. The Rockets can basically use within ~$2.5mil of the cap level(which is Parsons' cap hold by then) and then give Parsons big money, like $10mil/yr, without ramifications.

    The Player option problem is more in terms of long term flexibility. Not really a big deal for Parsons.
     
  19. khfxxx

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    1. Harvard
    Small school. Not many nba players are from harvard. Lin is like the 4th or 5th...Leave alone successful ones..

    2. Asian
    He doesn't look strong, quick or athletic from eye test.

    Basically stereotype played a big role there.


    And Lin actually improved a lot during the lockout. He was a different player from his rookie year.
     
  20. OremLK

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    I would rather try and loot Jeremy Pargo from the Cavs. Similar style of play to AB, but younger (only 26), bigger, and better defense. He could probably be on the floor with either Lin or Harden, allowing the coaches to stagger minutes more effectively.
     

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