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Chronic: Battier's biggest play is dunking doubters

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rockets34Legend, Jul 13, 2006.

  1. Rockets34Legend

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    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/4043685.html

    Told he can't do this or that, incoming Rocket proves 'em wrong

    By JONATHAN FEIGEN
    Copyright 2006 Houston Chronicle

    Shane Battier did not hear the crowd boo that night at Toyota Center. But it would not have bothered him. He's heard worse.

    Before he became so widely praised as a player and citizen, before he became a draft-night acquisition of the Rockets, a favorite in Memphis or a Player of the Year at national champion Duke, he was doubted.

    And with every stop, he said he heard — and answered — those doubts again.

    "My whole career has been about lesser expectations," Battier said Wednesday. "Back when I was in high school, I went to the same high school (Detroit Country Day) as Chris Webber, so you can imagine I had every comparison thrown at me. 'You'll never be as good as Chris Webber. You'll never make it. He was bigger than you, stronger than you.' "

    In college, the second-guessing continued.

    "They said, 'Oh, you're a power forward, but you're too small to be an effective power forward at Duke. You should have gone to a smaller place where you can play more. Duke is too good for you.' I think it turned out OK."

    He heard the same thing in the NBA: "Battier is too slow. ... He's not athletic enough. ... He's a tweener, doesn't have a position."

    "And I had a pretty good five-year run and signed a six-year extension," Battier said. "If anything, I learned you can't always listen to people. You have to have confidence in who you are and play to your strength. I don't let that stuff bother me anymore."

    The Rockets acquired Battier, 27, for forward Stromile Swift and the rights to Rudy Gay, taken with the eighth pick June 28. They could not complete or discuss the deal until Wednesday, when Battier ceased to be considered a "base-year compensation" player and his salary could match Swift's.

    Not a numbers guy

    The sixth pick of the 2001 NBA draft, Battier, 6-8, has averaged 10.5 points and 4.8 rebounds in five seasons with the Grizzlies. But the Rockets believe he will bring them more than the statistics can show.

    "It's a real thrill to have him on this team," general manager Carroll Dawson said. "He adds so much. I think he's one of the biggest winners in this league. He's one of those guys that makes everyone on the floor better. ... We thought it was a great move for us and one we did without hesitation."

    Battier said he thought of the Rockets as diminished largely by injuries last season. He said he would not refer to himself as the "missing link to a championship," but when he described his play, he spoke of the qualities the Rockets said they want.

    "My MO my whole career — ever since kiddie ball, high school ball to the first five (NBA) years in Memphis — is all about winning basketball plays," Battier said. "I don't get caught up in statistics or positions. I've always had coaches and teachers that taught me to make winning basketball plays, whether it's a key block, a key steal, making a guy work for 40 minutes, hitting a great 3-point shot. I look to do the same thing here."

    Battier expects to be more productive offensively because he will be playing with Yao Ming and Tracy McGrady.

    "There are ample opportunities here in different spots," he said. "I know there are a lot of shots out there that Tracy and Yao create for everyone else, so I can be more aggressive than I was in Memphis.

    "Obviously, this team is Tracy's and Yao's team. It's all of our jobs to complement them and make them better."


    Playing second fiddle

    Just as the acquisition of Battier was overshadowed by what the Rockets gave up to get him, his introduction Wednesday was also obscured by the one who got away.

    Coming a day after the Rockets lost their pursuit of free-agent guard Mike James to the Minnesota Timberwolves, the trade for Battier was announced amid nearly as many questions about what the Rockets could do to retool their roster.

    There is not much precedent for a favorite son of Duke to be overshadowed by an undrafted guard from Duquesne.

    But Battier did not seem to mind, having been there, and played his way past it many times.

    "The beauty of draft night is you think about the potential of your draft pick," Battier said. "You can go from pick one to 30 and find a Hall of Famer. I'm sure every GM goes through the same thought that they could be drafting the next Michael Jordan.

    "I really wasn't upset at the reaction. As I enter the season, I'm going to work hard, try to play the right way and win basketball games. If you do those three things, it's funny how the fans come around."

    jonathan.feigen@chron.com

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    Sura shoots again

    The Rockets moved a step closer to getting guard help, after all. Guard Bob Sura, out all of last season, moved his rehabilitation to the practice court for the first time since knee surgery last season.

    "He's been here the past couple days," Rockets general manager Carroll Dawson said. "He's been on the practice court. He's making a lot of shots."

    Sura, 33, had an operation on a microfracture in his right knee.

    Rockets center Yao Ming is also on the practice court, having been cleared to run.

    "Right now, Yao is back in Beijing," Dawson said. "He's on the floor with the team every day, but he's not actually playing with them. I think he will be released around (Aug. 1) to start playing again. For all intents and purposes, he's well. So is Tracy ( McGrady)."

    Alternatives eyed

    When Mike James turned down the Rockets on Tuesday, Rockets general manager Carroll Dawson began formulating a free-agent Plan B. He had plenty of help.

    Agents representing guards that would like to be next in line for an offer began calling, but Dawson said he was not ready to target another guard to help with the Rockets' backcourt void they had hoped James would fill.

    "We got a pool of five or six guys," Dawson said. "We got film we're letting the coaches get a look at. You're always trying to find that find that will come in and do well. Like Mike James. Three years ago, he was kind of out of the league, and look what happened."

    So far, Dawson said, he has not concluded any free agent is ready to blossom like that.

    "But we just started," he said. "Plan B started yesterday. I've said before: It's not a great year for free agents. We're in the process of going on down the line and putting together a group. The one thing I've never believed in doing and never will do is just have a knee-jerk reaction when something happens that you didn't plan on or like and go out and make a bad play.

    "We'll go on down the road. We'll find the next guy. We'll get our share here."

    Looking back

    With the terms of the contract offers (about $23.4 million over four years) comparable, Rockets general manager Carroll Dawson said there were few signs that the team would not be able to sign Mike James until shortly before James chose the Timberwolves.

    "I was surprised," Dawson said. "There's no doubt about that. He campaigned pretty hard to get here. Usually if you don't get a person it's because you don't have enough money or you don't have enough years. That wasn't the case. As far as I know, we were right in there, according to what his agent was telling me.

    "It was a shock. Those things happen, but I felt good about it all the way. There weren't any bumps in the road. I think we did our work very well. We were very diligent about it."

    JONATHAN FEIGEN
     
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    let's be honest here. do any of us really believe he's going to surpass his 10 and 5 numbers? i don't. he's always going to hover around those numbers and will always remain in mediocrity. he's been in the league for what...5 years now? whatever hasn't happened by now probably won't be happening in the future. so i don't think he'll be "dunking doubters" if it means stepping his game up a few notches. however, perhaps 10 and 5 is all we need from him, provided yao keeps up his play from the end of last season and t-mac is healthy. as for shane, i think he's hit the ceiling.
     
  3. BigM

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    10 and 5 is the most worthless description you can make about shane battier. he's far more valuable then those numbers display and that is the point of the article, not whether he can get 12 and 7 next year.
     
  4. Panda

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    Obviously Feign thinks Shane Battier averaging 6 points in 32 minutes in the playoffs is enough to dunk the doubters.
     
  5. Rockets_Truth

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    sometimes I think you need certain players around you in order to perform up to your full potential and I think Houston is a perfect fit for Shane. I have a feeling he will have a good year.
     
  6. tiger0330

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    If anything, I expect Battier's numbers to fall teaming with Yao and Mcgrady, he'll defer to them and be much more of a third option than he was at Memphis where he only had to defer to Gasol. I'm not sure why the guy wasn't more of a scorer in Memphis with Gasol as the only legitimate star and Miller coming off the bench. I hope CD is right that this deal was too good to pass up but I still don't see it.
     
  7. VooDooPope

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    Shane is the new David Wesley. We just gave up a lot to get him.
     
  8. dc rock

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    :rolleyes: Shane Battier is younger than David Wesley. Shane Battier is taller than David Wesley. Shane Battier is stronger than David Wesley. Shane Battier is better than David Wesley. Shane Battier...
     
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    Oh please, age, size, stregnth and ability are inconsequential in basketball. Outside of that, he's a David Wesley clone.
     
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    Plus getting lit up by Dirk and Howard helps prove what a great defender he is.
     
  11. crooklyn3

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    If he gets his minutes, I think he will be a 14/7 guy on this team.
     
  12. ROXTXIA

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    14 and 7 seems about right.

    AND he'll stretch the D with his 3 point shooting. Battier and Novak catching those passes from Yao and knocking down the threes.

    And all the intangibles. Taking the charge, deflecting the pass, stealing or blocking the ball.
     
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    funny how swifts numbers were similar except by one point off... (with less minutes)
     
  14. Tameway

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    Agree~~!
     
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    I understand stats doesn't mean everything. I also understand that Battier could be more useful than Swift on the court, and it is not because he only averages one more point, with more minutes, than Swift .

    But, Mr. intangible can only do that much while Rox have too many holes on the floor. If he was such a difference maker, Memphis should have won at least one playoff game already.

    And the price for getting him was just ridiculous.
     
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    Why did we suck last year? Poor Shooting.

    Where are the Shooting Guards that were on the priority list?

    Just unbelievable- Luxury Tax is higher, we have 2 MLE type Exceptions ( almost) and we wait while every other team seems to be in rush to get better!

    I am not sure what is worse- The Management "Spin" or Feigen " Sucking up" and spewing crap ( We understand you have a job- but please dont be so blatant!)
     
  17. vlaurelio

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    is battier quicker than wesley? does he have more guts to shoot than wesley?
     
  18. wink2cat

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    :confused: - The price for getting him was too high? I dont understand all of the crying we have on this board lately... the price for getting a solid role player was an unproven rookie and a lazy PF, I think everyone should just sit back and see how this all plays out instead of freaking out about not signing Mike J or keeping Mr. Gay.

    I think everyone is going to be eating crow around Janurary this season.

    edit- the eating crow part is only if Yao and Tmac stay healthy
     
  19. vlaurelio

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    is one playoff game win too much to ask?
     
  20. rserina

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    Um, shooting guards are not the only ones who shoot. Battier is a good shooter. We attempted to bring in James, who is a good shooter. Besides, what good shooters have we let go? Peja and Bobby Jackson? They were both overpaid and we didn't have the money for that. Tim Thomas? They guy got cut in mid-season by Chicago. Radmanovic? Who else would help us out there?

    Had you said length at the two was a reason we lost, then maybe I could understand your point. But regardless, shooting, length at the two, or Juwan Howard (everyone's favorite whipping boy) were not the reasons we lost last year--it was the injuries to Yao and McGrady. If that happens again, we are sunk regardless. But management will look really smart again if those two are healthy, Battier has a solid season, Head breaks out as expected, and we can get enough of an upgrade behind the one and in the post.
     

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