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[Chron/CenterPoint] : Millions of residents face another dark night

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Dr of Dunk, Sep 15, 2008.

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Mango said:

How often does Centerpoint have a massive failure like the current situation? I don't recall the outage from Alicia (25 years ago) being this severe. The replacement of lines in my area over the years has been minimal because trees aren't abundant.

Those that have more frequent line and outage issues seem to have an abundance of trees that cause problems in bad weather. If the decision is made to replace the aboveground system only in areas with an abnormal amount of failures, then that will likely entail trenching in and around tree roots which will take longer and drive the cost even higher.

I realize that Centerpoint, Entergy etc will have to pass the costs of this <I>Event</I> to the consumer. To pass on the costs of a massive trenching project on top of the current <I>Event</I> cost won't be palatable to the consumer and would cause financial hardship for some.

What is the projected cost for replacing the current pole system with underground lines?
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The government can and should help subsidize the costs of providing a better system.

#81 Master Baiter, Sep 17, 2008

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Master Baiter said:

The government can and should help subsidize the costs of providing a better system.
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#82 rockmanslim, Sep 17, 2008
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Underground lines are not the solution. They are very expensive in which we would be paying for them. Not to mention that they are not easy to access like current lines. They would have to dig up roads and block access to them.

#83 Angkor Wat, Sep 17, 2008
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Well forget underground lines. How about using better line posts? I mean how hard is it to use concret posts instead of wood ones?

#84 oldgunrules, Sep 17, 2008
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Mango said:

How often does Centerpoint have a massive failure like the current situation? I don't recall the outage from Alicia (25 years ago) being this severe. The replacement of lines in my area over the years has been minimal because trees aren't abundant.

Those that have more frequent line and outage issues seem to have an abundance of trees that cause problems in bad weather. If the decision is made to replace the aboveground system only in areas with an abnormal amount of failures, then that will likely entail trenching in and around tree roots which will take longer and drive the cost even higher.

I realize that Centerpoint, Entergy etc will have to pass the costs of this <I>Event</I> to the consumer. To pass on the costs of a massive trenching project on top of the current <I>Event</I> cost won't be palatable to the consumer and would cause financial hardship for some.

What is the projected cost for replacing the current pole system with underground lines?
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I am not saying replace all the power lines with underground. But in some areas, yes I can see how it would help. As Dubious posted, some new developments are already doing this. In areas with trees running right next to power lines, such as the Woodlands, I definitely could see how it would help.

Not sure why you are 100% opposed to it. I am not trying to make this thread about underground vs poles, that isn't the purpose and it seems it is escalating. I just had a comment/idea, that is it. I am dropping the issue all together now.

#85 dskillz, Sep 17, 2008
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How about simply insulating the wire so it doesn't ground itself on the first frickin tree that blows into it.

#86 lpbman, Sep 17, 2008
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There is a centerpoint map that I saw earlier but now the site isn't working for me. It breaks up the areas of Houston and tells you whether to expect power before or after Monday the 22nd. I live in the 77008 and of course it said I wont get power until after Monday.

#87 Harrisment, Sep 17, 2008

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Harrisment said:

There is a centerpoint map that I saw earlier but now the site isn't working for me. It breaks up the areas of Houston and tells you whether to expect power before or after Monday the 22nd. I live in the 77008 and of course it said I wont get power until after Monday.
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same here... this really, really, really blows.

#88 SWTsig, Sep 17, 2008
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mogrod said:

We live in Sugar Land (77498 or 77478. whatever it is now). We live about Hwy. 6 and Bissonett close to Kempner HS. We still do not have power and neighbor was told by Centerpointe it won't be back on until Fri. or Sat.
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Well good news, bad news.

Bad News - Centerpointe lied.

Good News - WE HAVE POWER THIS AFTERNOON, BABY!!!!! WHOOHOO!!!

#89 mogrod, Sep 17, 2008
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great, it says after Monday, sept 22nd for me!

however, i think this map is a little bit inaccurate...my parents who are in blue shade got their power back monday.

#90 Lady_Di, Sep 17, 2008
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Geez, I feel so sorry for all of you without power and damage.My parents live in Kingwood and they "think" they will have power by next Tuesday, to be honest I cannot fathom having no power for that long. My prayers are with all of you, it was sureal watching the storm and the aftermath from here in Omaha.......Good luck to all of you

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I agree. My last post looked like I was gloating and I shouldn't have been. Just excited to have the power back.

6 days without power was hell so it's hard to imagine looking at another week or more.

My prayers also to those still dealing without it. Hang in there guys.

#92 mogrod, Sep 17, 2008
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if we dont have power by friday i'm heading to austin.

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mogrod said:

I agree. My last post looked like I was gloating and I shouldn't have been. Just excited to have the power back.

6 days without power was hell so it's hard to imagine looking at another week or more.

My prayers also to those still dealing without it. Hang in there guys.
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we won't have power until Oct. 5th

#94 LouisianaRocket, Sep 17, 2008
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I thank god I have my parents house to go to where they are lucky enough to have power while I wait this out. I'm sitting here sick as hell with a fever and can't imagine having to do this with no electricity. Hang in there fellas.

#95 Harrisment, Sep 17, 2008
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Master Baiter said:

The government can and should help subsidize the costs of providing a better system.
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I would like to see a cost analysis of a underground vs above ground.

You might also remember that if you have to upgrade an above ground system due to new buildings that have higher capacity it is much easier. Underground you have to dig into the ground (which has power lines)

#96 Bandwagoner, Sep 17, 2008
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Master Baiter said:

I don't know why they couldn't do it. It would also look better. That was one of the things I liked about Sweden. It was so much cleaner looking without all of the power lines.
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The cost is what stops them from doing it. This same discussion came up in a neighborhood near where I live. Residents wanted to bury power lines instead of moving poles closer to their houses as a street was being widened. They saw the cost of doing it and decided against it.

#97 Dr of Dunk, Sep 17, 2008
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I just got my power back at 6:20

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Just heard from a neighbor, power has been restored to my place in 77008 tonight. I'll be heading back tomorrow, woohoo!

#99 Harrisment, Sep 17, 2008
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Power back on 45 minutes ago here at 77095.

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