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[Chron] Catching teams off guard: Brooks, Lowry finally teaming up to give Rockets...

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by gah, Jan 12, 2011.

  1. HTown_TMac

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    We also happened to lose this game.. So, we're still screaming for an offensive threat thats not 'empty'.
     
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    Lte's go small, Kmart at SF, trade battier! Brooks, Lowry, Martin= Super Treat to the league, Run and Gun all night!
     
  3. mrjuandiego1988

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    and who might that be on this rockets team?
     
  4. mrjuandiego1988

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    melo ,lebron and durant will eat up martin at SF! :confused:
     
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    Not sure, but he better be CONSISTENT like Kevin other wise our team is going to be shooting 39% from fg just like the Old Franchise Days.
     
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    It's a game called let's see who can score the most points! In a seven game series I'll take My rockets to outscore any NBA team in the league! :cool: All we need is a Big man who can protect the paint for us and will be set!
     
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    You think Morey would trade him for someone who isn't an offensive threat?
     
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    Utterly ridiculous. Martin's stats are not 'empty'. We lost the Portland game because Lamarcus Aldridge toasted Scola and Hill on both ends of the floor. It wasn't because Wes Matthews, Rudy Fernandez, and Batum were torching Kevin Martin. They weren't.
     
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    Edit: sorry, clicked reply twice
     
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    I like how Adelman referenced AB as a shooting guard in that story which is the role he plays on the offensive end when in the game with Lowry.
     
  11. solid

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    Kevin Martin is soooooo undervalued by Clutch Fans. I am stunned. He is a shooter. He was brought here to compliment Yao's inside game. Yao is gone. When we get another dominant inside presence KMart will flourish. He is not so bad right now. Imagine KMart on the perimeter with double and triple teams inside the paint. He would be deadly out there by himself.
     
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    Exactamundo.

    DaDakota has lost all regard for facts and reality. He just keeps typing the same thing over and over regardless of how ridiculous it is.
     
  13. Dave_78

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    He doesn't need to play with Yao. He is already flourishing...check the stats.

    His defense has come along also.
     
  14. choujie

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    Nobody on this team is gonna have Martin's efficiency. The problem with Martin is when refs don't call fouls, he becomse less effective. So he's good for 1st three quraters, especially 1st quarter. that makes Martin the better starter. AB might be a better closer because he doesn't rely on calls that much.
     
  15. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    Luis, Courtney, Brooks, Kyle, Budinger, Hill, TWill, they will find a way to replace his scoring, I doubt the team suffers at all in it's output with Kmart gone...especially if they pick up someone else that is a good scorer too.

    I like Kmart, but he is hardly untouchable.

    There are some refs that call a lot of his flops, and some that ignore most of them, I would prefer to have a player that is trying to make the shot more often instead of trying to rig the system....

    I don't mind it every so often, but dude flops a lot and that stops the flow of the game, and the refs eventually stop calling it....ever wonder why Lowry's flops are not working as much this year? Because Refs call so many for Kmart that they just stop calling them for the team....overall.


    DD
     
  16. gah

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    That was supposed to be priority number one over the summer, for him to work at getting stronger and being able to draw more fouls. The only way he is going to take his game to another level is by doing this.

    At times I feel sorry for AB because the refs seem to be biased with him, the most fragile player in the court can’t get a freaking foul call when he is hit, out of all people in there, you would think the refs could empathize seeing they too earn their living in the very same land of giants. Au contraire, it has taken a turn for the worse, you can feel animosity between AB and the refs after a dubious non-call, not even Batman’s intervention has helped.

    But it barely is on the refs, AB shies away from absorbing contact, he could use a little recklessness taken from the fearless man Iverson is, drawing fouls it’s the only thing keeping him from joining the upper tier of scorers. Hopefully, he can get to a point in his career where he draws at least 3-4 foul calls per game, it doesn’t sound that hard considering the skill level AB has.
     
  17. gah

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    It can be what it may but it’s not justified. Lowry has gotten tremendously hammered and has been the most terribly officiated Rocket this year; I believe the swallowed whistles outnumber Lowry’s flop attempts by a considerable margin.
     
  18. JayGoogle

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    Only difference is that Brooks made big shots to finish the game and didn't disappear in the 4th qtr that Martin does almost every night.
     
  19. jopatmc

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    But if you add a superstar on the level of Melo, they just can't quit calling the fouls.

    Don't you see that even if they quit calling so many fouls that they CANNOT quit calling all the fouls that Martin creates because of the way he draws the contact???

    Even in those games where the refs swallow their whistles, if you go back and look, Martin still winds up averaging more points on less shots than Brooks does. And if the refs are not blowing the whistle for Martin, do you think that Brooks has a snowball's chance in Hades of getting any calls at all???? Those games that get rough and tough with the officials letting the physical play go on are just the kinds of games that we need Lowry for the most. He's gonna bounce off the contact and keep playing. And Martin is STILL going to get his.

    Look at Martin's career numbers. Complain about him. Say he only gets his numbers because the officials blow the whistle. Go ahead and say if the officials quit blowing the whistle he will be useless. And in the course of saying those things, go ahead and believe falsely that the refs are all of a sudden gonna swallow those whistles for the next 10 years.

    You may as well go ahead and believe that the NBA is going to do away with the three point line...........or that the NBA is going to change the rule on perimeter handchecking...........so we'd better get rid of all the quick, small guys that can shoot from distance.....because they're gonna be useless if the NBA does those things.....and we'd better load up on a bunch of big lugs that can bang around in the paint and on a bunch of oversized perimeter players that crash and bang and chuck and grab, because someday the league is gonna change the rules and let the handchecking go and do away with the three point line.

    Kevin Martin has been making a living doing what he does. He does it well. You can call him a flopper. You'll have to call him an offensive flopper because he doesn't get close enough to anyone defensively to flop. But it doesn't matter what you call him. Scoreboard! Look at his numbers. Look at his efficiency. Then try to tell me we are better off taking the most efficient, highest scoring player on our team off the team and letting everybody else "pick up the slack". That makes no sense at all. Unless you are living in this magic world somewhere where in your fantasy league free throws and three point shots don't count.
     
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  20. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    You guys are misinterpeting what I am saying.

    I like KMart a lot, but IMO, he is very tradeable, just as the rest of the team, and is probably the most prized piece on the team, making him the most likely to be traded.....along with possibly Scola.

    At some point the team will pick a direction, because right now they are circling the airport in a holding pattern waiting for their landing slot.

    While Kmart's PPS numbers are OFF the chart, his defense is equally bad, and he doesn't do anything else like create many assists.

    Last year, the Rox record with him and without him was nominally different, if ever there was a premier scorer in the league that had very little to do with winning or losing it is Kevin Martin.

    IMO, he is almost a net zero on the court.......

    DD
     

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