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Christian Hackenberg - Your quarterback of the future

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Two Sandwiches, Jan 2, 2016.

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  1. rocketman12

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    I don't understand why people here are so excited about drafting the next Jake Locker? I just don't see him being a accurate passer. He gets rattled easily.

    Again, if the Texans take him and he proves me wrong and becomes good I'll be happy. But i honestly just don't see anything special in Hack.
     
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    Penn State QB Christian Hackenberg's "upside potential excites NFL decision-makers," reports TFY Draft Insider's Tony Pauline.

    "Some eyebrows were raised when Hackenberg left for the NFL Draft after two dismal seasons, but the situation at Penn State was untenable for him," Pauline wrote. "He offers the physical skills to start on Sunday and teams truly believe with proper coaching he’ll reach his potential in the NFL, something Hackenberg would’ve never achieved on the college level. No one I’ve spoken with in the past two months believes Hackenberg will drop out of the draft’s top 75 picks." Hackenberg has been training for the draft with Jordan Palmer, brother of Arizona Cardinals QB Carson Palmer. ESPN's Todd McShay grades the 6-foot-4, 212-pounder as a third-rounder and an anonymous NFC scout told NFL.com last month that Hack should be chosen by the end of the Round 3 "at the absolute latest."

    Feb. 1 - 3:54 pm et
    http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/playerbreakingnews.asp?sport=CFB&id=132327&line=52040&spln=1
     
  3. rocketman12

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    If you argue he will be better due to having a better line, then you have to acknowledge the defenses he will throw against will be better than any defense he saw in college.
     
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    If that report is true, and he's attainable in the second, that's a huge, HUGE win for the Texans.


    Don't underestimate getting a talented, potential franchise quarterback, that already has a good grasp of your franchise's offense, at 21, in the second round. HUGE.


    You're essentially free to pick the best playmaker available in the first, whoever that may be.
     
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    You consider getting someone in the second who scouts give a third round grade to a huge win?

    Also, Mallet and Hoyer both had a grasp of BOBs system.

    Can any Hackenburg fan give any legit reasons as to why Texans fan should be excited if he comes here? I mean was there a specific game this year where he balled out?
     
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    Its called his entire freshman year. He balled out.

    He improved this year, but entered the draft ultimately because he knew the Texans are desperate for a QB, and because he knew his stock likely wouldn't improve in an offense that does not fit him.

    And yes, he's a steal in the late second. I don't care what some scouts say.

    Read the thread for other reasons.
     
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    That first year was nice sure, but certainly not balling out status. He still couldn't complete 60%.

    Since then, you can blame the poor play on the Offensive line, but guess what? NFL defenses are better than college defenses.

    People also say that he didn't get along with the new staff. So he's mentally weak and can't succeed unless everything is perfect for him. That sounds like someone who will get eaten alive in the pros.
     
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    Hell nah he's not a steal in the second. Pass on Hack
     
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    Tom savage's senior year was better than Hackenburgs freshman year that everyone's so excited about and they are about that same size.
     
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    Most people grade him out as a 2nd-3rd round pick now, but he seems like the kind of guy that will rise on private workouts and face-to-face interviews.
     
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    Who does he compare to already in the league running-wise?

    Legs are a plus, but main thing is if he feels pressure well and can move within the pocket. Quick release and getting the ball out fast wouldn't hurt either. Brady and Manning have been doing all the above for years without good legs.
     
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    A lot of the arguments for drafting Hackenberg were the exact same arguments used for acquiring Mallett. Prototypical size, big arm, NFL tools, familiarity with O'Brien, knowledge of the system, lots of potential. Both were even thought to be high first round picks at one point. It didn't quite work out with Mallett so seeing these same arguments for Hackenberg does nothing to alter my opinion.
     
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    They are very similar in physical tools, but Hackenberg is viewed as a leader and not a headcase. Though he may already have David Carr syndrome when he feels the rush.
     
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    Mallett was was exiled because he was immature and irresponsible, but it's not like he was playing well either. Hackenberg may not have the off field issues Mallett had, but that doesn't necessarily mean he'll be much better on the field.
     
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    Hack potentially could have a meddling father if things don't go well.
     
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    Tom Savage's senior year was also better than any of Brady's or Montana's.


    There's a reason scouts don't go by stats for college QBs.


    Especially not when comparing an 18 year old to a 23 year old.
     
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    Hackenberg has shown he has it between the ears, which was by far the biggest flaw in Mallet.


    We can pull this thread up again in five years. It'll be funny one way or another.
     
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    He'll rise to an late first to early second, in my opinion. Scouts won't hold stats against him. They'll realize he was fighting an uphill battle at Penn State, and in the end, it will (fairly) drop him a little, but not much.
     
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    If we can snag him late 2nd(trade down) then I'll be happy. But he's not worth our current 1st or current 2nd. If you can't trade down then you snag best available and if he's gone by your 3rd you roll with Savage. Who btw..., is physically very similar to Hack but has more years in BOB system than Hack does actually.
     
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/3T?src=hash">#3T</a> talked with <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Hackenberg?src=hash">#Hackenberg</a> and the NFL Draft prospect said it would be &quot;Awesome&quot; to be reunited with Bill O'Brien &gt; <a href="https://t.co/wGKEkhvKpS">https://t.co/wGKEkhvKpS</a></p>&mdash; SportsRadio 610 (@SportsRadio610) <a href="https://twitter.com/SportsRadio610/status/694315488592007168">February 2, 2016</a></blockquote>
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