Christian Hackenberg - Your quarterback of the future

I was doing a search on this type of thing and found this article:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/39485-nfl-gms-beware-the-rule-of-59-hasnt-missed-yet

That's pretty convincing (even though it seems he used a relatively small sample size - 99-05). I'm not nearly as excited about him now.

 

Early 90's had some nice ones that didn't match this criteria.

Drew Bledsoe 1st overall pick
55.8% 22 TD 15 INT
http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/drew-bledsoe-1.html

Brett Farve 2nd round pick
54.5% 7 TD 6 INT
http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/brett-favre-1.html

 

Do you guys think BOB intentionally avoided drafting a QB the past two seasons for this moment to draft Hack?

 

Not purposefully but a head coach knows whoever they "choose" as their QB and stick with they are stuck with in the sense that if those QBs fail the head coach is gone as well. So Bob has been reluctant to stick with anyone. But yeah this seems like the year he will have to tie his job to a more permanent QB.

 

Wow, thats interesting…the only reason I even looked into it was because I was surprised at how low Hack's percentage was and thought it would be fun to kill some time looking through current NFL starters.

 

Hackenberg might be the truth with 16TD/6INT in that situation.

He's immobile though, right?

What quality was Lion's receiving core, TE, and RBs?

 

That would've been pretty stupid. If Hack was still expected to go where he was expected to go after his freshman season (Top QB, top few picks if not #1), then the Texans would've had to be pretty bad 2 years into the O'Brien era for them to pick him. And if OB really were holding out, I doubt he expected Hack to struggle the way he has and that he'd drop in the draft, perhaps even to the 2nd or 3rd round. Simply put, there are too many variables between how Hackenberg has (or hasn't) developed and where the Texans ended up drafting to believe that OB intentionally held out specifically to get his old college QB.

 

Not really. He's not a running QB by any means but he's not a statue either.

 

Just some Senior Bowl chatter from Walter Football

http://www.walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2016rumors.php

Sources with multiple teams have been extremely critical of Penn State head coach James Franklin and his handling of quarterback Christian Hackeneberg. Just to be clear, none of these sources are with the Houston Texans. They say that Franklin was a terrible coach for Hackenberg. These sources have known Franklin for years and feel he is responsible for a lot of the problems with Hackenberg. Franklin tore down Hackenberg and hurt his confidence. They say that Franklin is a rah-rah type of coach who showed a lot of favoritism toward the players he brought to Penn State over the players he inherited from Bill O'Brien and Joe Paterno. On top of Franklin's poor handling, Hackenberg was sacked 103 times in his 38 collegiate games with the vast majority of those sacks coming in the two seasons with Franklin. The offensive line was pathetic, but teams feel that Franklin set up Hackenberg for some failure because he tried to fit a square peg into a round hole from a scheme perspective. They feel a good coach would have adapted their scheme to Hackenberg and the other pro-style players O'Brien cultivated. They say that Franklin never embraced Hackenbarg as his guy to lead the program.
Read more at http://www.walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2016rumors.php#RlAY2yE0wWjmFzFo.99

 

I'm okay with this move as long as we go Elliott in the 1st and Hackenberg in the 2nd.

Elliott instantly provides a much needed boost on offense as Foster's replacement. I could live with a great defense and strong running game as our identity until we develop our QB of the future. Plus, drafting a QB outside the top 10 is always a crap shoot so it's worth taking the risk with BOB's guy and see if he can develop him in the most ideal situation possible.

 

it used to be that a qb would gradually, with 3 years in the league, improve his completion % . there is a lot of shotgun and empty backfields in b.o.b's UGGS offense.

 

I agree with Zeke at 1 but BOB will think Hack will be gone in the 2nd and likely will reach for him in the 1st...

 

Another option is to take Zeke then trade up to the top of the 2nd and take Hackenberg if the Texans are worried about him being gone.

 

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Throw away the name, watch the tape and tell me one thing Christian Hackenberg does better than Sean Mannion did.</p>&mdash; Benjamin Allbright (@AllbrightNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/AllbrightNFL/status/692936631410622465">January 29, 2016</a></blockquote>
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The numbers certainly support the theory.

As a true freshman, Hackenburg had a reasonably promising first year under O'Brien:
58.9%; 2,955; 20/10; 134.0 rating

There are not a lot of NFL corollaries; few players start as a true freshman, frankly. The only two I could find were Andy Dalton and Carson Palmer (who actually split time as a freshman - but did throw 235 times).

Dalton completed 59.8%; Palmer 55.3%

Both players improved over the next 3 seasons (Dalton hit 66.1% his senior year; Palmer 63.2% - although, it's worth noting: Palmer has sub-60% his sophomore and junior years).

O'Brien left after Hackenburg's freshman year, and something absolutely happened to his development as he actually regressed significantly his sophomore year (55.8%; 2,977; 12/15; 109.4 rating) before a decent bounce back his junior year - though he was still not an appreciably good college QB (53.5%; 2,525; 16/6; 123.9 rating).

 

I personally liked the night and day difference with Hack when he actually uses his feet. I think with BOB he goes back to that quite often