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Chris Christie traffic scandal: An end to presidential plans?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by KingCheetah, Jan 8, 2014.

  1. mc mark

    mc mark Contributing Member

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    Glenn Beck Dubs Christie's Bridge Scandal 'Fat & Furious'

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  2. SamFisher

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    People connected in Bergen county. I can't say any more.


    People don't seem to understand the entire context of who Chris christie is and who he sells himself as - a take no prisoners, no-nonsense, reformer who's supposed to end coruption who's also bipartisan.

    This scandal goes against EVERY SINGLE ONE of those things and is why he's been in hiding for the last day. To you it's probably not a big deal - it probably is a big deal to the henchmen who could go to jail for it.
     
  3. tallanvor

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    the supposed accusation is that he spent tax payer money to inconvenience the citizens of his political enemy. Do you really not understand that this is awful? Using money earned by the hard work of your constituents to inconvenience said constituents for the purpose of punishing another politician who doesn't endorse you is disgusting.

    Also what you wrote is completely dishonest.
     
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    Actually, the supposed accusation is criminal abuse of office to settle political scores - see e.g. Nixon.
     
  5. tallanvor

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    correct. I was addressing morality instead of legality. Morally this is awful.
     
  6. CrazyDave

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    Well, he's holding a press conference to say how he fired people that did this without his knowledge.... so everything is fine now. :rolleyes:
     
  7. GladiatoRowdy

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    http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairballs/2014/01/new_jersey_traffic_retribution.php

    Imagine fighting for your political life over this.
    If you've never been to the northeast, particularly if you've never driven on their highways, it is probably tough for you to understand the scandal facing Governor Chris Christie and his staff right now in New Jersey. How could a pair of lane closures be that significant of a problem that it would represent a form of political retribution?

    A little background first. Christie, the popular and bombastic Republican mayor of largely democratic New Jersey, is widely considered to be a possible GOP candidate for President in the next election. He's ruffled feathers on both sides of the political aisle, but the people of the Garden State seem to love him. Most importantly, it was thought he was a guy who didn't really do political scandal. He might disagree, but he'd do so publicly.

    But, when the Associated Press dug up e-mails sent by a top Christie aide suggesting as payback for the mayor of Fort Lee not backing Christie in the election, they should close down a couple lanes of their freeway, that perception has rapidly changed. Now, on to the traffic problem.

    Here in Houston, we have an abundance of highways and options for getting around traffic. For any given location, there are probably 10 different routes that will get us there. It's why traffic is almost never a problem for Astros and Rockets games because there are so many ways in and out of downtown.

    Sure, traffic during rush hour is tough with so many people trying to either get into or leave business areas like downtown, the Galleria or the Medical Center. But, imagine if there was just one business center and only a single point of access to it. Consider what would happen if the entire population of Houston lived in the Woodlands and the only access road into downtown Houston was Interstate 45. That's the problem facing New Jersey.

    With its proximity to New York City, there are thousands of people every day that must pass through a choked artery to get to the George Washington Bridge. To make matters more complicated, virtually every road in the area is part of the New Jersey Turnpike, which is a toll road -- every time I drive through that state, I am reminded how much it costs just to drive your car there.

    A few years ago, I drove a car into Manhattan at 5 or 6 p.m. on a Friday evening through the Lincoln Tunnel. At the entrance of the tunnel, something like 50 lanes converged into about four (it was probably more like 12 down to six, but you get the idea). Just getting into the tunnel took probably 20 minutes. Everywhere at almost every time in and around New York City, it's the same. It's like the West Loop only angrier and making less sense.

    So, the next time you are cursing our traffic and considering taking an alternate route, imagine that, in New Jersey, the closing of two lanes of traffic is so bad, it represents a scandal that could have widespread political ramifications for the governors office. Our traffic blows, but it's not normally scandal worthy.
     
  8. solid

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    As a political independent I would never vote for him anyway. I don't like anything about him. Just more confirmation that he is a bully. I am looking for a Patriot that will live and die for the good of the country.
     
  9. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    Thanks for that background, Houston Press. I had thought he was the Duke of New York?
     
  10. mc mark

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    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    Maybe the Houston Press has the same NJ sources as SamFisher and they are tipping their hand: Christie will be demoted to mayor of New Jersey.
     
  12. SamFisher

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    Stand by for possible upgrade to "folks, this is real" status.
     
  13. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    What is *really* dumb about all of this is, like Nixon, they didn't need do do any of it to achieve their aims (reelection). It was just pure abuse of power for the sake of abusing power.
     
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    This is great news for Barbara Buono!!
     
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    Even if you don't like Christie, you know he is not that stupid. Something smells, and, personally, I am sniffing the stench of Hillary's campaign operatives.
     
  16. Blake

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    You are doing the exact same thing that people on this forum do when you criticize the Obama admin by justifying the unethical behavior by pointing out that the other side does it (Bush admin).

    Poor form.
     
  17. bigtexxx

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    actually I was pointing out the left's pure hypocrisy.

    and I forgot to mention the NSA scandal and the Fast and Furious gun running
     
  18. gifford1967

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    Your doing it wrong. Think about it.
     
  19. Baba Booey

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    At least the traffic jam actually happened. That puts it ahead of every GOTP "scandel" so far...
     
  20. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    Why not Rand Paul or the Tea Party? They hate Christie, or so it seems.
     

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