China continuing to clamp down on those who speak honestly

boil animals alive and approve bear bile for medical uses

Overtaken saudi as the shittiest place on earth

 

The Saudis won't care what Daryl Morey tweets

 

If you replaced China with Trump in the title it would be old news.

 

Damn... this pisses me off so much that I completely forgot that Trump:

-Fired the pandemic Response team
-Was warned in January and ignored
-Repeatedly called Covid a "Dem Hoax" and conditioned Red States to ignore making the US more vulnerable
-Buried initial cases by purposefully refusing to allow testing
-Created a race baiting campaign to distract
-Signed relief Bill, but fired the IG so he can have virtually no oversight in how money is spent
-Repeatedly marketed a Drug as a miracle drug that has not been proven as an effective treatment (leading to at least one couple's death).


But.... CHINA... man... glad you mentioned this today. I now have forgot that the US has by far the most cases globally, and we likely have the longest turnaround because of the lag time with other states who have resisted stay at home orders.

Yes... dictatorships suck. China is a problem, and needs to be held more accountable for their food safety procedures. It's funny though you aren't mentioning Russia. Why not? We know that they are lying about their numbers. We know they kill journalists, and imprison anyone who speaks against the Supreme Leader. They have used bio weapons in the past in countries like England (our closest friend), that could have killed many innocent people just to kill one person. Then we can talk about North Korea.... what about Kim Jung Un who has an entire section of the country sectioned off as essentially a death camp. Hell... basically the entire population of the country are prisoners in some form. Where's the outrage thread at North Korea today??

You are trying to re-direct anger to help Trump out politically by shifting blame. Nobody should take the bait. Our country needs AMERICA FIRST solutions for Covid. Shifting blame does nothing to help rid this country of this b**** of a virus.

 

A good read on how the rest of the world should proceed:

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/202...time-for-conscious-uncoupling-with-china.html

 

god you are weird. I work for Apple? That’s news to me.

Also anyone that is ignorant enough to think that Trump is doing an above average job at leading our country through a pandemic is ignorant enough to vote for Trump in November.

15,000 deaths.... yeah wonderful job.

 

Most were on their last legs or compromised

- bigtexxx

 

I thought thread was about China.

 

This thread is about China.
And China's response.

Unfortunately it's hard to really find out the truth about what's going on in China at the moment with a travel ban in place.

The initial response when they didn't listen to the medical professionals on site and tried to cover it up was a complete failure. Some countries though we're better prepared than other countries.

The CCP was always going to deny any mishandling and quite any voices saying otherwise. It's pretty much been their handling of any issue in their history.

I don't see the world responding in any way to be honest. China is the 2nd biggest economy in the world and will soon be the biggest. The majority of the world can't afford to respond.

 

This doesn't surprise me and the CCP clamping down on a billionaire isn't new. Xi Jinping is happy to make an example of one of the wealthy and actually probably helps him by burnishing his own populist image. As I remarked in the Wuhan rent protest thread, an organic protest even small ones is more troubling for Xi. Critics of the PRC like to portray it as an authoritarian police state that rules by fear and surveillance. There are certainly aspects to that but the legitimacy of the CCP is that they have delivered on improving the standard of living radically and within only a generation. They've bolstered this by pushing nationalism. If those don't work it's not going to be clear what might happen and it might not be pretty.

Regarding whether we should trust what comes out of the PRC. I agree we should be skeptical but in a case like this the scope of this is going to be very difficult to hide and the PRC isn't Iran or NK. The Great Firewall is actually pretty porous. Also the CCP got burned by it's handling of the early days of the crisis. There was an uproar on social media within the PRC over Dr. Li Wenliang which the state couldn't silence. The CCP even officially apologized to Dr. Li's family. Something that is not in character. From some of what I'm hearing was that they feared that Dr. Li could turn into a martyr against the government. That is a sign that the CCP can't control the messaging completely on this issue.

 

Well, it could have been lot worse.

See Kim Jong Il and Jong Un.

This is a unique concept that unites socialism, autocracy and the concept of capitalism in one.

Was doomed from the beginning and worked at least somehow.

 

Lol you're ignorant. Sounds like someone who thinks Mexico was going to pay for the wall.

China is a central pillar of the world economy. While an attempt will be made for cash compensation. USA or Europe won't be able to just cut China out of the world economy.

I'm not sure how you think you're going to realistically punish China.

But if there is punishment it will be at a much much smaller scale than the trillion dollar compensation people are talking about.

 

Since when did you start to care about Chinese Tycoons?
Epstein too dead to keep you entertained?

 

Hopefully there will be a movement of businesses from China.

But this isn't an easy thing to do. China has set up a really productive manufacturing industry. Convincing companies shareholders who are international investors will be hard.

A good example is when apple tried to manufacture Mac Pro in the USA the first time and struggled to find manufacturers of small parts. But couldn't find any. In China it appears there's a manufacturer for everything.

 

MNC thinking:

Relocation takes CAPEX. There's none to spare.
All economies are getting hurt, China comparably less so.

I'd be stupid to move out.