That video is frelling stupid. Had to stop watching after she said Alton Sterling was going about his business. Was his business threatening people with a gun and being belligerent with police? Come on, man.
That video (in your signature) is frelling stupid. Had to stop watching after she said Alton Sterling was going about his business. Was his business threatening people with a gun and being belligerent with police? Come on, man. EDIT: Furthermore, was there any "shooting" involved with Freddie Gray? Is that video for real?
She says what she feels BLM is about so you disagree with her are you a closet member and know more about them than you have let on?
The dashcam looks like the officer jumped the gun. http://player.gtxcel.com/previews/8F3u7Nnw-XkGI5ukr
I certainly know that Alton Sterlin was not "going about his business" and that the death of Freddie Gray was not an "officer involved shooting".
They really didn't have any better videos than that? That's rough. After seeing the video I'm more likely to think that it was unjustifiable but the one thing they have going for them is that apparently he was still armed after getting out of the vehicle which is weird. When he was shot, his hands were down at his side so I'd press charges and see what happens.
Yeah, I certainly didn't see it, but IF the gun was in his pocket or waistband then maybe they could say he was going for it or they thought he might be going for it. Either way, I think it's worth a case just to have all of this shake out in court.
Do you know what typical descalation is for situations like this? I thought the goal was to have the armed person drop their gun (if they have a gun) and then have them lay prone with hands behind head. I thought shooting was reserved for live fire or having a gun pointed at officers.
Well they were trying to get him to disarm, but it seems like he wasn't interested in that. I'm sure if he had dropped his gun on the ground it would have gone from there, anyway here's the official story of what happened, how it happened, and why it happened. Here's the text "There have been numerous unconfirmed reports published in the media concerning this case. The Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police Department has prepared the following case update to provide factual information about the officer-involved shooting. Two plain clothes officers were sitting inside of their unmarked police vehicle preparing to serve an arrest warrant in the parking lot of The Village at College Downs, when a white SUV pulled in and parked beside of them. The officers observed the driver, later identified as Mr. Keith Lamont Scott, rolling what they believed to be a mar1juana “blunt.” Officers did not consider Mr. Scott’s drug activity to be a priority at the time and they resumed the warrant operation. A short time later, Officer Vinson observed Mr. Scott hold a gun up. Because of that, the officers had probable cause to arrest him for the drug violation and to further investigate Mr. Scott being in possession of the gun. Due to the combination of illegal drugs and the gun Mr. Scott had in his possession, officers decided to take enforcement action for public safety concerns. Officers departed the immediate area to outfit themselves with marked duty vests and equipment that would clearly identify them as police officers. Upon returning, the officers again witnessed Mr. Scott in possession of a gun. The officers immediately identified themselves as police officers and gave clear, loud and repeated verbal commands to drop the gun. Mr. Scott refused to follow the officers repeated verbal commands. A uniformed officer in a marked patrol vehicle arrived to assist the officers. The uniformed officer utilized his baton to attempt to breach the front passenger window in an effort to arrest Mr. Scott. Mr. Scott then exited the vehicle with the gun and backed away from the vehicle while continuing to ignore officers’ repeated loud verbal commands to drop the gun. Officer Vinson perceived Mr. Scott’s actions and movements as an imminent physical threat to himself and the other officers. Officer Vinson fired his issued service weapon, striking Mr. Scott. Officers immediately rendered first aid and requested Medic to respond to the scene. Homicide Unit Detectives interviewed multiple independent civilian witnesses at the scene and at police headquarters. Those witnesses confirmed that officers gave numerous loud verbal commands for Mr. Scott to drop the weapon and also confirmed that at no time did Mr. Scott comply with their commands. A lab analysis conducted of the gun crime scene investigators recovered at the scene revealed the presence of Mr. Scott’s DNA and his fingerprints on the gun. It was also determined that the gun Mr. Scott possessed was loaded at the time of the encounter with the officers. The investigation also revealed that Mr. Scott was wearing an ankle holster at the time of the event. In the previous post are photos of the gun, ankle holster and mar1juana “blunt” in Mr. Scott’s possession at the time of the incident. Links to the portion of the digital mobile video recorder (dash-cam) and body worn camera footage that capture the time of the shooting are below. The body worn camera illustrates the footage from the moment it was turned on until officers began rendering first aid to Mr. Scott The dash-cam footage is from the time in which the officer operating the car with the dash-cam video arrives on the scene until officers began rendering first aid to Mr. Scott." As to shooting, that can occur any time an officer reasonably believes that a suspect is an imminent threat to the officer or others. A suspect failing to disarm can go a LONG way towards making a shooting happen. That said, I never really saw a gun so I don't know how justified this is going to turn out.
Conspicuously absent from their statement is where they are claiming the gun was when he was shot. "exited the vehicle with the gun...ignored commands to drop the gun...gun Mr. Scott possessed was loaded" What does the ankle holster have to do with anything?
