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[CBS] Andre Johnson Was Denied New Contract

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by justtxyank, May 9, 2014.

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  1. Remii

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    I guess they think because we have Hopkins we don't need Dre. Receivers like Dre grow on trees. Come a dime a dozen. And or easy to replace.
     
  3. desihooper

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    Look at top Cap Hits (2nd) and top Cash Salaries (4th). Andre has been paid and paid well - they even redid his deal when the market changed after he signed his original extension.
     
  4. justtxyank

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    It was more complicated than that. He signed a deal that his uncle(?) negotiated and then got unhappy because the guy didn't get him as much as money as he could have. The Texans were gracious to rework the deal to get him to market value despite him signing the previous deal that his "agent" asked for.

    The Texans have been more than fair to Andre Johnson. They don't "owe" it to him to do anything. If they trade him I would never forgive them for it. Players don't "deserve" to win anything. They get paid and paid well to perform for their team. Sometimes that means you lose and sometimes that means you win. Andre is one of the ones who unfortunately isn't going to have a SB ring. There are tons and tons of athletes that never got the ring.
     
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    I'm right there with you - just replying to Remii stating that he has reason to be upset.

    Players want the security of a long-term deal until they get a long-term deal and see other players getting more in future years.

    Hope AJ80 is on-board with the BO'B regime. He might find out he likes the offense, and he'll always get his targets. Fitz is smart enough to know who his playmakers are, and we know Keenum likes going to AJ80.
     
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    Um, what? HOF receivers are commonplace? Paint me skeptical on this one.
     
  7. Remii

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    Doesn't matter. Players look at contacts as a sign of respect. And it's receivers out there who doesn't do it like him and are making more money...

    And Dre restructured his deal to help the team when he didn't have to. And the Texans returned that favor by putting guys like Walter on the field with him.
     
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    Sarcasm for those who called me "stupid" for saying Sammy Watkins should be an option in the draft.
     
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    The Texans should trade Dre to a contender type team. That is the best thing they could do for him right now. We won't be in contentions for at least another 2-3 years. Therefore get some for him while his stock is still pretty high. OB wants Mallet so trade Dre for him and get some draft picks along with 1 or 2 more players.
     
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    Andre is a 12 million dollar cap hit...not the 9 million your chart shows.

    He's gotten paid extremely well and he should be happy with it.
     
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    You're acting like it was such a sweet act for Dre to restructure...that's very commonplace act in the NFL.

    If Dre was taking a cut to help the team, then yes, incredibly sweet. But restructuring has nothing to do with how much money he is taking home. In other words, it doesnt affect him to restructure.
     
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    When they restructure his deal, he's not getting any less money. They just convert some of the salary into a bonus (which he gets paid right away) for salary cap purposes to free up some cap dollars, not hard dollars.
     
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    If anything, the Texans were the sweet ones for re-doing a bad deal that he inked in the first place.
     
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    Typical "athletes get paid too much money" response from a fan.

    Sounds like a plan _ even though I don't like that plan... Lol.. But I can see Brady with a big cheese smile on his face with the thought of having Dre.

    But I haven't heard anything of him demanding a trade so maybe all of this will blow over. But it's disgusting that Dre has gave his all for a team and fans are bytchn and wanting him to be traded because he didn't show up for VOLUNTARY workouts, didn't like the draft picks, and not satisfied with his contract (when hardly anyone is ever satisfied with the money they make).

    J.J. has been here for a hot minute and the consensus was that fans wanted Clowney to team up with him... But all these years Dre has been here _ no one was concerned about getting him any help.
     
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    "getting him help" was what they did when they ran Carr out and brought in Schaub. "getting him help" was what they did when they brought in Nuk Hopkins. Just because they didn't reach on a QB this year or draft a bench WR with the first pick in the draft doesn't mean that they aren't "getting him help"
     
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    Ridiculous. You can read the posts in this forum for the last 10 years and you will find many here (myself included) complaining that the Texans needed to add legit receivers outside of Andre to "give him help."

    Outside of that, the complaint about getting him a better QB has been rehashed over and over.

    As for your dumb comment about Watt teaming up with Clowney, nobody has felt sorry for Watt saying he should get "help" they are just excited about what it might look like now that he does have help.
     
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    Seriously?

    No. Houston did right by AJ. Sure the organization's been poorly run, but you can say the same for AZ and Detroit (Fitz and Calvin). And pointing to bad contracts like the ones Wallace and HARVIN got as amo to say Houston was cheap with AJ is not fair. AJ negotiated his own deal. That was stupid but it was his choice, and not a bad deal at the time considering he had a hard time staying on the field early in his career. But the Texans renegotiated it and made him a top 3 paid WR. AJ is making incredible bank, no idea why you think we ripped him off or didn't do right by him. The organization failed to field a winner, get additional quality WRs and a decent QB. The organization has been poorly run since it's inception. But we took care of AJ and there's no way one can fairly say that Houston didn't pay that man.

    Plenty of great wideouts waste their careers with bad organizations. That's a different issue than being paid fairly.
     
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    Another thread where Remii is arguing with everyone. What's new?
     
  19. Remii

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    Fine... Well trade him are cut him then... Problem solved. We got Nuk. Won't miss him.
     
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    Remii sucks so hard.
     
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