15 min of CPR is nothing. For those in this thread talking about brain damage after 15 min you have no idea what youre talking about. There is plenty of oxygen in your airways that get circulated which is why compressions are so important. Ive worked guys for 25+ min and had them walk out of the hospital several days later.
What is your profession? That seems extremely out of the ordinary but I'm not a doctor so I'll take your word for it.
It doesn't mean she didn't have air for 15 minutes. There are people who have cpr that long and have no lasting effects, hence why they do it. Then again, CPR is only effective a small percentage of the time, so there's that. At my last cpr training we had to show we could do cpr on the dummy for 10 minutes straight to pass. That hurts like a mother lover.
I suppose it would depend on the condition wouldn't it red? If someone has a cardiac artery completely blocked that lead to a heart attack what good would CPR do? It would keep the body alive but the heart would have massive and extensive damage that is irreversible, especially if it's the LAD (widowmaker). Maybe you're use to doing CPR on young idiots that OD'd on stuff that caused cardiac issues whether it be V-Fib or out right arrest, but when it comes to old folks with probable blockage issues I don't think it's out of bounds to say that doing 15 mins of CPR on someone like that to be futile to their overall health. I know in the years I've done CPR on older folks in the ICU maybe 1 or 2 out of 30 survived, and their quality of life afterwards (for the short amount of life they had left) was not bueno.
It does hurt, especially for the one having CPR done on them. I hope Leia didn't sustain any broken ribs in that 15 mins.
When I recently got certified in CPR, the EMTs told us that an adult body has about 10 minutes of oxygen in their body before the need to take another breath. That's why rescue breaths have become less important in the new CPR certifications. CPR isn't very effective to resuscitate someone, as well. That's usually because someone who has cardiac arrest likely has many comorbidities to begin with. The EMT who trained me said he could count on one hand how many people he's revived with CPR in a decade of work.
I always liked to imagine that George Lucas has cut footage from ROJ with Jabba the Hut raping Leia. I was hoping he would release it on one of the special release editions.
No that's not a crazy amount of time for CPR, and to the person saying CPR isn't effective you are dead wrong. You don't always I.V push and you don't always shock, but what you're constantly doing is CPR with as little time between lapsing w/o compressions as possible. The people that run the best codes swear by it and literature shows the best outcomes.
Myocardium generally has a 30 minute window before real "irreversible" ischemic damage sets in. Its actually quite amazing. And some of the damage is actually due to what we introduce through PCI related reperfusion injury. Since you worked in the ICU you're probably familiar w/ the door to balloon time but outcomes related to M.Is are usually pretty good when you access to medical care. M.Is in the ICU setting are subject to bias and come with co-morbid conditions.
Well said. I work in king county wa. We have the highest save rate of witnessed cardiac arrest in the world. What we do here is what the American heart association follows.
