posted on Texans Message Board If this is true (can someone from 610 verify?), then it looks like the evaluation of David Carr is definitely over. This is proof positive that leadership (or the lack thereof) is quite tangible ... and I thought this loser could be an "average" QB.
To coin a popular phrase from "the Replacements" movie, "winners want the ball!" Enough said. Carr doesnt inspire anyone, lead anyone or elevate anyones play around him. Game, set, match. Truth hurts ... Next year, please! New QB.
. . and I thought Kubiak took the ball out of his hands is it possible Carr didn't want the ball? Rocket River
wow. this and the kubiak quote about mario williams not being in the game at the end because he wanted his best 11 on the field are eye-opening.
He did not say Mario was not one of the best 11. He said they rotate lineman to keep them fresh throughout the game. He said we need to have our 11 best on the field at the end of the game and that includes Mario.
ok..i didn't actually hear the quote. Lil Francis mentioned it here: http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=121543&page=2&pp=20
They've rotated their D-lineman all year long. We've been through this. [EDIT: Lonestar28 beat me to it] Anyway, doesn't surprise me that Carr didn't want the ball at the end. This was arguably the biggest game of his pro career....and he didn't want the ball....
Speaking of leadership, did anyone hear David Carr's remarks on 610 this morning? Specifically the ones calling all of the fans' concerns "nonsense"? I swear, listening to DC is like listening to a surfer talk. His attitude comes across like: "Dude, chill out! It's just a gaaaame! I mean I'm happy, my family's happy, we have a nice house and I'm getting paid bodacious bucks to play a game. Life is good so just chill out and enjoy the view. I know I'm going to keep going out there and enjoying myself so lighten up fella." The sad thing is that he's like this after every loss: "We just didn't make enough plays to win. Ho hum, this is just so gosh darn disappointing...could someone get me a Fresca?" I look at and listen to this guy and I see no fire and no burning desire to win. This is just a gig to him and winning and losing appears to be secondary. I'd like to believe that I'm wrong but I just don't think so any more.
Throughout his tenure, it's struck me again and again that the biggest thing absent with Carr is a desire to be better. The best players in the game are rarely satisfied, if ever. They 'punish' themselves by working and preparing themselves to death, even after wins. Carr sleeps well at night no matter what and then clocks his 9-5 at practice. Zero heart. Zero sweat. Evan
been in chicago the past week - holy balls, it's cold there. and by the way, you think houstonians hate david carr...? spend 8 seconds with a bear fan and ask them what they think of rex grossman... anyway, i heard kubiak's radio show last night; a caller asked him specifically about the end of the game and kubiak said it was his decision and that he'd make the same one again and again because, not only was tennessee holding a timeout, but too many bad things could have happened [a turnover, a penalty in the end zone resulting in a safety, etc]. those of you who don't listen to kubiak's show (and instead log into message boards and comment on completely bastardized and inaccurate versions of what he said) are, honestly, missing out. he's a straight shooter - little to no BS; he never ducks questions and struggles to sugarcoat his answers. based on nearly a year of hearing his show, and the way he's handled carr, i find it nearly impossible to believe he'd even ask carr what he wanted to do. and i don't care if you have john elway in his prime, kneeling was the right decision. the defense had played well to that point. hell, even on the winning drive, they played well; forcing a favorable 3rd and 14... if kubiak made a mistake, it was kicking to pacman jones. i'll tell you what, he's to that defense what young is to its offense. he's out and out terrific. the two of them are going to be making plays for a looooooong time in nashville.
I'm no football expert, but I find it hard to imagine kneeling with John Elway would have been the right decision. 53 seconds...John Elway....chance to win the game.....I just can't believe he would want to kneel and/or a coach would make him do it. Which is obviously one of the differences between Carr and Elway.
well, yeah, you have elway but you also still have this offensive line... kubiak did the right thing. the chances of taking a team 93 yards in 53 seconds is, at best, remote regardless of who your QB is. throw two incompletions, run on third down to try and run the clock, tennessee calls a timeout and suddenly you're punting inside your 10-yard line and handing the ball back to a team with, not only VY, but perhaps more frightening, a kicker who, last week or whenever, belted a 60-yard gamewinner. sure, it would have been fun/interesting to see what carr could have done, and maybe kubiak, given the circumstances, should have turned carr loose - why not, right? but i think he made the right call. i have no idea how often it happens, but 90+-yard drives aren't commonplace under ideal circumstances; you're better off taking your chances on a 50/50 coin flip. especially at home. i find it exceedinly hard to find fault in kubaiks choice there.
kubiak made the right decision, and im pretty sure if it was carr's call he would have made the same call.
i would have made the same call, too. i can't believe people were surprised. kubiak took the ball out of carr's hands entirely in the second half of the raiders game. you thought he was gonna follow it up by letting him throw on his own 10 with 53 seconds left in a tie game??? you play with the talent you have. until you trade it away.
I agree - you don't take that kind of chance, especially without any timeouts. The only thing Carr does well right now is throw short. You don't ask him to throw deep passes in that situation. That said, it wasn't a 93 yard drive - they only would have needed a field goal try rather than a TD. So you're talking about a 55-60 yard drive to get a decent attempt off.
