You're hyping Frank too much bro. He averaged 6 points on 36/32/72 %'s, and he had a negative DPM and DPRM last year, only 1.4 steals 0.4 blocks per 36. I'm not saying there isn't a chance the dude will develop into a very nice player on day, it was just his rookie year, but at the same time he hasn't shown anything that should keep him out of a Butler deal. And again this is a play for both Butler and Irving. This is a play to make the Knicks an actual contender in the east. IF they can keep Knox, and get Butler in a deal based purely on Frank, then yes I think they should do it. Because... Irving Butler Knox Porzingis Could be a reality if they do, and that's way too good to pass swinging on IMO.
Can’t see Minny taking any of those young Lakers for Butler, especially if they keep Wiggins long term. And L.A. would be silly to move them without at least seeing how they mesh with LeBron for a bit. FWIW I actually think Ingram might be the one who shakes loose for them in a trade down the line.
Yes, Jimmmy wants no part of CHI. I'm just claiming that from an ear...Jimmy is the prize, but second prize may be better for the Rockets. Need>Name
And our need is.......what, Cod? Are they looking for 3 and D? A big? EDIT: Just saw your post directly below, so maybe you already answered.
Also, no matter what: The Lakers have the best chance of getting Jimmy. They have the best pieces to send over. But there are some guys in Minny and a third team that are better fits for our roster. I love Jimmy, but I also think Melo is going to have an amazing year. We need some bulk in the front court though...we #decreasedthedrop with BK (he'll heal), but that's our weakest area IMO
The Lakers have the least chance of getting Jimmy. The chances of Minnesota waiting until December to trade Jimmy is very unlikely. Therefore, the only way Lakers can acquire him soon is if they trade Ingram and Lonzo which they have made very clear they will not entertain. That’s the only way the numbers work. You should know this
Otto is a tough trade. But with Dwight in town, look for the Quite Ones. Wash will be a heavy mover. Shhh especially and don't be surprised if John Wall tries forcing himself out...even with that contract. He wants to win. Okay, no more posting. I never post this much. Love ya'll. Happy Friday. #LookGreen
Clear? That word means many things. LeBron has clout there....if he wants Jimmy, Lonzo, Ingram, etc are great pieces to bring a superstar to LA. Magic wants to win. Lonzo isn't the guy to do it, nor is Ingram. And for your little, passive-aggressive shot at me: I do know the Lakers are open to trading everyone not named Bron. Chess, not checkers.
Love to Codman. On the other thread the cod alluded to reviving the talked about Miami deal in December, which is when Wayne Ellington can be moved. Although 3+D guard to match salaries as the third team sounds more like James Johnson, dunno how we could make that work though.
NEW YORK -- As the Minnesota Timberwolves front office tells inquiring rivals that the franchise has no plans to trade All-Star forward Jimmy Butler, owner Glen Taylor had a different message for owners and executives at the NBA's Board of Governors meetings: Butler is available, and prospective suitors should contact Taylor himself should they struggle to make progress with GM Scott Layden, sources told ESPN. The growing disconnect between Minnesota's ownership and front office has created an impression for opposing teams that a showdown between Taylor and Tom Thibodeau, the Wolves' president of basketball operations and head coach, looms as an increasingly plausible conclusion to Butler's trade request. "The owner's trading him," one Board of Governors attendee told ESPN on Friday. "That was made clear. It's just a matter of when." "He basically said, 'If you don't get anywhere with [Layden], and you've got something good, bring it to me," another high-ranking league official told ESPN. Taylor declined comment to ESPN on Friday as he left the mid-town Manhattan hotel that hosted the league's meetings. Many of those attending the Board of Governors meetings are convinced that Taylor and top team business officials don't want a prolonged saga with Butler, preferring to move him to a new team sooner than later. Thibodeau -- who oversees Layden, the point person on trade talks with outside GMs -- wants to hold onto Butler and navigate the season with him. If Thibodeau is destined to get fired at season's end, those familiar with this thinking say he'd rather do so reaching the playoffs for a second straight year with the benefit of Butler on the roster. The idea of missing the postseason in the aftermath of a trade that leaves the Timberwolves devoid of a short-term, comparable talent to Butler, a four-time All-NBA forward, is fully unappealing to Thibodeau. Meanwhile, Taylor has far less of a stomach for a dysfunctional season of feuding among Butler, All-Star center Karl-Anthony Towns and forward Andrew Wiggins and the damage that'll do to the franchise's image, league sources said. The franchise's business operations want to limit the sullying of what had been until now a successful marketing campaign around the franchise's starry young core, league sources said. Butler told Thibodeau that he would like to be traded before reporting for Timberwolves media day on Monday and that he plans to leave the franchise in free agency next summer, league sources said. The Clippers have two max contract slots available in July. They are emerging as a front-runner for Kawhi Leonard when Toronto's All-NBA forward becomes a free agent in July, league sources said. The Nets' ability to sign two max free agents in the summer will keep them in consideration for Butler, but he has prioritized the Clippers and Knicks over them, league sources said. In any circumstance, Butler wants a trade to a team that plans to sign him to a five-year, maximum contract that could be worth $190 million in the summer, and his list could expand based upon the Timberwolves' and rival teams' willingness to negotiate a trade for him, league sources said.
