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Bryan Colangelo Used Secret Twitter Accounts To Criticize His Own Players

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by SC1211, May 29, 2018.

  1. roslolian

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    I call B.S. The wife probably volunteered to be a scapegoat to save her husband's career. Why would his wife trash current players or rival exececutives unless Colangelo has been feeding her info which means even if it turned to be his wife it still reflects Colangelo's opinion.
     
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    Posted before:

    Forget the tanking for Embiid, Fultz and Simmons "that anyone can do" (even though they don't). I also do't care about "maybe Porzingis" (you're right, hard to prove)... let's start actually with the other moves he did do that don't get mentioned enough.

    Hinkie's moves.

    Key Moves For Future Assets in just his 3 years of employment:

    Drafted MCW 11th and then sold high -> for Lakers unprotected 2018 Pick

    Jrue Holiday -> for Noele + 2014 First Round Pick (Elfred Payton) -> Traded Elfred for Dario Saric + the Orlando's 2017 First Round Pick (see below)

    Thaddeus Young -> Cavs 2016 1st round pick (Timothe Luwawu-Cabarrot Drafted by Colangelo 24th)

    Cenk Akyon -> Thunders 2016 1st round pick (Furkan Korkmaz Drafted by Colangelo 26th)

    (side note, would HInikie, if he didn't see value here have traded the 2 1st round picks for future assets, drafted Siakam, Murray, or Brogdan instead? You never know, but the first round the picks were probably a better asset than whom Colangelo drafted).

    Took on Salary from Sacramental to swap Orlando's 2017 first round (basically got into the top 3, i.e. Tatum) + Sac's unprotected 2019 First Round Pick (which will now go to Boston .... all part of the Fultz for Tatum Trade).

    Signed Covington and T.J. McDonnell.

    Also did small deals for 2nd round picks (they still have 7 more incoming in the next 3 years from other teams https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed)


    To say he loaded the cupboard for them and a good rookie GM is a major understatement. This was Celtic-isque (in 3 years, got 4 extra future first, 2 of them in the lottery, 7 2nd rounds in addition to his own picks from tanking). Most people were saying there's no way Colangelo could've screwed it up..... Fultz better get his shot back and be awesome for Colangelo not to have a horrible legacy.
     
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    Even if it was the wife. I am sure she is just reciting her husband's sentiment.
     
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    #me3
     
  5. justtxyank

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    Great post.
     
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    First of all, this is a post worth responding to. You are much more logical and reasonable than the other teenage sounding Hinkie worshipers.

    There is no question Hinkie was very good at making trades. He swindled a bunch of teams the same way Danny Ainge and Daryl Morey did. He was also a better GM than Colangelo, that's for sure.

    That said, he made some major blunders and was far from the mystical stature he obtained after he was fired. In fact, his blunders cost his job.

    1. He had no PR presence. In fact, his lack of communication turned the media and the league against him. When he had no allies left, he became vulnerable to the outside pressure which created the Colangelo coup. Daryl Morey, his boss and mentor, was much better at this when he was the rookie GM.

    2. His Process was too long, and he didn't manage the expectation well. In 2013, he drafted MCW, over Steven Adams and Giannis. Now I don't fault him too much for that, since many teams passed on them, and MCW was ROY that year. But he immediately traded him the following season for a future Laker's pick (2018 #10). He basically spent a tanking season for an asset five years down the road.

    In 2014, he drafted Embiid, knowing he would be out for at least a year. He also traded draft rights to Payton for Saric, who stayed overseas for two more years. As it turned out, these are very shrewd moves for the long term, but 2 years of tank jobs in, he had nothing to show on the court. He also had a dozen second round picks, and none of them turned into anything.

    These are defendable, if not commendable move from a pure long-term basketball sense, but he created tons for pressure for himself. Many people started questioning his motives and were calling his actions a Ponzi scheme to prolong his job, or the Process. The Sixers were the joke of the league. People can do revisionist history now, but look at the threads in 2014-15. Almost everyone thought Hinkie and the Sixers were a joke.

    3. In 2015, he drafted Okafor over Porzingis. That was the nail on the coffin. People can argue all they want about ownership vs Hinkie. But the truth was Porzingis' camp avoided him because of the reputation he created. Later that year, the league swooped in and installed Colangelo, an inferior GM but had some credibility.

    Hinkie had himself to blame for a lot of this. Had he drafted any of the Giannis, Adams, Porzingis, Myles Turner, Devin Booker, he would still be the GM today. Had he communicated with the media well, he would have had people defending him. In fact, if you ask him in person today, he probably tells you he made mistakes.

    I really like Hinkie. I think he is a better GM than most GMs of the league. But the worship and mythology have reached a nauseating level. The worshiping, along with his reputation, are why he still doesn't have a GM job today. I honestly hope he gets another shot someday.
     
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    Basically, Hinkie was a really good GM in terms of decision making/stragegy/opportunity seeking but needed to improve his perception management. Morey, probably due to his consulting background, is much better at this (where as Hinkie joined the Rockets right after Stanford). For all the dork Elvis comments, Morey actually schmoozes (goes on many Podcasts, always giving props to the owners in interviews and etc.).
     
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    Some guys wished now that Twitter was never invented.
     
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    Funny how I was just thinking about social media and how it has become a necessary evil for many. And now this post. Yep.
     
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    Everything you mentioned, Hinkie in his manifesto after his resignation had responded to. If you’re into this type of GM stuff you should read it. Because whether you like Hinkie or not, believed in his philosophy or not, he really talked about how the entire process worked.

    Also on a side note, that letter was never suppose to be public but the owners/Colangelos leaked it which once again just shows how much slime there is inherent with the organization.
     
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  13. Nick

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    Is there a way that Colangelo possibly survives this? Even if its all his wife's fault, its clear she had to get that information directly from him... which means his ability to not spread privileged information is compromised, and no player is going to ever really trust him again.
     
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    The only reason that he isn't fired is because his father is calling in every single favor he has to save his son's job. This is a joke, had this been anyone else with a similar track record, they would already be fired. People talk about the NFL and a strong fraternity of a few guys getting preferential treatment in the front office, from ownership and the league...... well that is what is happening here. The NBA lobbied hard to get Colangelo Sr. involved with the Sixers because they knew he would toe the line, and predictably his son becomes the GM.

    The league really has entirely too much control over the competitive aspects of the league, from the front office to the officials.
     
  16. Nick

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    I understand he's connected... I just don't see how he's going to be effective at his job, regardless of whether or not he's truly at fault, because on some level, players/owners/other GM's/fans won't fully trust him. On some level, he himself has to know that.

    TBH, I wouldn't be surprised if the Sixers are giving him a chance to try and save face by either admitting fault, or admitting he was a victim of circumstance, and doing the honorable thing and resigning.
     
  17. Nook

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    He can't be effective at his job, that is why he should already be fired.
     
  18. justtxyank

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    No chance aside from them miraculously discovering that he really had nothing to do with it any it was an elaborate frame job. That's it.

    I expect him to be fired and David Griffin to be at the top of the list to become the next GM.

    I think the biggest hangup is going to be whether they can "mutually part ways" where he gets some level of payment on his salary or the Sixers are forced to fire him for cause.
     
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    The NBA front office strikes again.......
     

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