Brooks and possibly Camby on a full roster; Something's gotta Give!

errr write this after we get camby, this is all just speculation

 

I agree all signs are pointing to Lin being gone. MIL would be interesting, but I wonder if Lin and jones would do it for James Franco twin Ersan and if POR would be interested

 

I agree....something will have to be altered.


Like my thread from yesterday though, if Camby doesn't pan out, Drew Gooden would address that specific need for us which is a PF that can actually shoot a jumper consistently.


No more airballs and shots with Helen Keller vision.

I like how Morey is now mixing youth and vet wisdom.

That seems to be the winning formula in today's NBA.

 

Bye Lin and Asik. It was good for the one year you guys were here.

 

In my humble opinion this is the order of how the bottom of the roster currently would shake out with the addition of Camby:

11. Canaan
12. Smith
13. Williams
14. Covington
15. Casspi
16. Brooks
17. Young
18. Henriquez


This means, barring trades or further free agent acquisitions, that Henriquez, Young, Brooks, and Casspi are first up on the chopping block:

Possible trades to create roster spots?

1. Greg Smith for a draft pick? - I think this is doubtful at this point

2. Jeremy Lin (and others) for something else? - I think this is 50/50 at this point. I'm convinced Morey wants to trade him but he's not going to trade Jeremy for just anybody. Gotta be a positive trade both talent-wise and cap-wise.

3. Omer - won't happen unless it's a blockbuster for a superstar and it will involve several players going out.


However, none of Canaan, Covington, Casspi, Brooks, Young, nor Henriquez are tradable until Dec. 15. So, there's either a multi-player trade involving Lin, Asik, and others going out for one or two guys coming back in order to keep one or two of the guys at the bottom of the roster .... or ..... they will get cut.



AND IF THERE ARE NO TRADES?

Personally, I don't think Henriquez has a chance. I think his signing was all about trying to get him in our system and get him to spend the year at RGV to see if we can develop him into something.

Young, he's got a chance to push himself into the top 15. It will all depend on what he does in training camp. But the odds are very stacked against him making the top 15.

Casspi, because he's got a larger guarantee his odds of making the final 15 are better. But they're still not great. If he doesn't bring it at training camp he could be cut.

Covington, I think he's going to have to really screw up in training camp not to make this roster. Unless we somehow bring in more free agents like Mike Miller. He looked very good in summer league. And he's super young. And Morey has him on a favorable contract for development. I think he sticks.

Williams, I think he's a lock. Young backup SG on a minimum contract with good NBA experience and a great fit as far as his offensive game. Don't see how he fails to make the roster.

Which brings us to Brooks...he's going to have to significantly outplay Young to deny Young a roster spot. And he's going to have to significantly outperform one of Casspi, Covington, or Williams. I think Covington is a keeper. So it really comes down to Brooks having to beat out Young and one of Williams or Casspi to make the final 15 with that most likely being Casspi.

Brooks or Casspi? 2 guaranteed contracts. Doesn't mean one (or both) of them won't be cut.

 

1. no more Asik @11, traded to Portland.
2. If I were the Bucks, I would prefer Dmo. :grin:

Good post.

 

It really depends on what "moves" Morey is anticipating as the season goes on. If he feels like he WILL move Lin, then perhaps he is more motivated to keep Brooks. I think Brooks stays. I think Casspi stays in the Delfino role and I see ahead of Williams on the depth chart. Morey clearly targeted him before Williams.

I think the luxury player is Reggie Williams. He is more of a known and Morey may want to keep Convington as a player that has a chance to grow.

 

when was the last time camby actually played meaningful minutes?

 

Geez. It's only July, and the Rockets could easily change the makeup of their roster between now and the start of the season. The only "risk" for signing players like Camby(if we do) or Brooks is that we cut one of them at the start of the season. Which means Les loses some money. I'm guessing after the Howard signing, Les probably isn't going to be too worried about wasting a $1mil on the 15th player on the team.

OTOH, these signings give Morey more leeway with the roster IF he decides to do a 2/3-for-1 type trades. He's basically hording players right now. It's like buying 2nd round picks. Sure, it may end up just being a waste of money, but the reward is there if the Rockets make a move that clears roster space.

 

Covington and Cannan make the team, but are assigned to the D-league. That leaves 13 spots.

1)Asik
Howard
Jones
DMo
Parsons
Garcia
Casspi
R.williams
Harden
Lin
Beverly
Brooks
13)Greg smith or 13) Camby
*camby signs, smith gets traded. Camby doesn't sign, Smith stays. There's also a chance smith stays if one of the minimum vets gets cut in camp.

*henriquez is gone
*young has a chance to make the team IF there's a trade that opens up space, or IF one of brooks, Williams, or Casspi get cut during camp, in which case Young would be assigned to the Dleague.
*if Rockets use room exception, an additional player will have to be cut or traded. Personally I'd like to see us use it on Nate Robinson. Harden, Robinson, Lin and Beverly is an exciting backcourt.

 

I do not think the Rockets will use the "room exception." At least initially. I think Morey is saving that in his back pocket to "fill needs" if/when they move Asik and if there is a position that needs to be filled.

March 1st is the deadline when players can be waived and be playoff eligible. Generally around this time teams that are tanking waive Vets. And that is when Morey will be in a position to pick one up with the "room exception" to perhaps be a key piece for the playoffs.

 

I agree. It is what it is. It's not our money thinking there.
However I do think cutting a veteran before the season, throughout season is very unfair to them.

 

They are allowed to bring in 20 to training camp. Last year they had to eat about 6-7 million in contracts to released players. Between now and the start of the season we will see more movements. This is normal.

 

I love LMA but Ersan would be a better fit on this team. His field goal percentage and 3 point percentage is ridiculously good and he's efficient. The Rockets would basically ask LMA to do what Ersan does so why not just get Ersan at a cheaper price...?

I don't know why people think the Rockets can automatically trade Asik for a star player when he's not a star player and as of right now he still can't catch the ball half the time. Don't forget what L.A. got when they traded Shaq. Asik for Ersan (plus a draft pick) is a good trade for both sides.

 

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I just don't see why we'd need 4 PGs on the roster if we need to find someone to cut.

 

If we are playing in the playoffs where you gotta show up under great physical and mental pressure I would rather have LMA over this other cat... we aren't just trying to win 60-70 games we are trying to be nba champions.

 

Agreed & as long as we keep Bevs.

 

But Brooks for the vet minimum is a no-brainer on the roster, and Cannaan will spend all next year in the DLeague. With Lin's injury history, and Harden moving into more of a traditional SG role this year, I don't see a problem keeping Brooks, Bev, Lin, and our rook.