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Brandon Knight

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by da_juice, Aug 31, 2018.

  1. CXbby

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    Eric Gordon was actually the one that NO fans hated the most, and Knight is in almost the exact same situation. Gordon never wanted to be in NO(he wanted to be on the Suns) and made it known, he was either injured or did not play up to his potential his whole time there. Knight was having a breakout season(by his standards) in MIL when he got traded. When he got to the Suns he had to defer to Bledsoe the first year and was benched for Booker the second, all while being on one the worst teams in the league. So he had a bad attitude and played like **** his last year, thats why the fans hate him so much. The Rockets can probably rehabilitate him much the same way they did for Gordon. Knight was never that good even at his best, but he can do much better than his last season. One of his biggest deficiencies is he is a really low efficiency scorer. He shoots over 20% of his shot from long 2 range and hits 35% of them. On the Rockets that will be completely taken out of his game, so off the bat his efficiency will go up(much like Chriss playing with HOF pgs). That doesn't automatically make Knight a better player, but in a league obsessed and currently overrates efficiency, at least that will increase his trade value.

    Off topic but it is funny that a stat head like Morey who pioneered efficiency ratings is zigging now and picking up all these historically highly inefficient players like Melo, MCW, Knight and Chriss. Don't people wonder why? It is because the NBA is so overrating individual scoring efficiency now that these guys are now undervalued. The game is not about how efficiently an individual scores, its about how much he contributes to the team scoring efficiently(and defensively). Just because someone scores efficiently does not automatically mean he is a positive contributor on offense(Terrence Jones, Ryan Anderson last year). And just because you don't score efficiently doesn't mean you can't contribute to an offense(Rondo, Rubio, Kidd). Also in the case of Melo and Knight, if you are inefficient because of shot selection, that is easily correctable.
     
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    The comparisons to Eric Gordon need to stop.

    He is quite simply not that kind of talent. You guys are in for a rude awakening If you think he is, or ever has been.
     
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    Of course. I meant repair his career here like Gordon did. Also similar in that both were injury ridden and did not want to be on their former team, which is why that fanbase hated them so much. Did not mean they are the same caliber player.
     
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    If he does repair his career here, Daryl Morey is salivating at the trade deadline... :D
     
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    his 2nd season was good as well, played solid d, best 3pt shooter on 65 win team, helped us to a couple of wins vs gsw, absurd range, late in the season he got injured and he never come back
    i think that spin move was the end of him
     
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    nice thinking there
     
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    [​IMG]

    The White Jeremy Lin.
     
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    Over the past 2 seasons...

    Chris Paul (31 mpg) has missed an average of 20 games each year.
    Eric Gordon (30 mpg) has missed an average of 10 games each year.
    James Harden (36 mpg) missed 10 games last season.

    Now, instead of having some scrub taking up those valuable minutes during those crucial 40 games, we'll have Brandon Knight getting those 30+ minutes for those 40 games this season.

    This is a 27 yr old combo guard that has started 320 career games with averages of 15 ppg, 36% from three, 81% from free throw, 4 apg, and 3 rpg.

    If he isn't traded, he is going to play a major role in our final record of the regular season.
     
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    yep.... also our point differential could be be sick... i hate losing 25 points leads in garbage time
     
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    let's hope our guard injuries don't come early b/c knight probably won't even be ready and in game shape till at least january. he won't even be able to participate in training camp still recovering from knee surgery in july and hasn't played competitive bball since feb 2017
     
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    Ouch. Reality sets in... Let's hope there are no injury complications around the trade deadline.
     
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    Fair enough but I think all three of the names mentioned above are good to great defenders, Kidd and Rubio have limited bad shots and got better at the percentage, all three are great playmakers.

    Knight could become an average shooter but he is neither great at playmaking nor defending so those examples are a reach.
     
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    He looks much more ahead of schedule than that. Looks like hell be ready for training camp. This was teo months ago, im sure he has progressed since even more since.

     
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    "still recovering from knee surgery in july"
     
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    I believe that he will be back in healthy at the beginning of the regular season. I have not seen anything referencing January.
     
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    Yeah thats the projection for Boogie cousins who had a way worse injury with the achilles. B knight should be good to go by camp.
     
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    Thanks for the update Codman. If BK can be 80% of what Gordon is now that would be a nice bonus. Perhaps playing in MDA's system can make him more efficient in the minutes he gets.

    Tyson Chandler would be a nice center addition, perhaps he can get a buyout in February. Feels like that could be a strong possibility.

     
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    Those were examples of "inefficient" scorers who were still positives on offense, not comparables for Knight. Knight's chance to contribute offensively is by becoming efficient by eliminating his inefficient shots, which he takes a ton of.
     
  20. MrButtocks

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    Melo and MCW are minimum contract signings, you're not finding efficient individual scorers at that salary level. It's not like we wasted our MLE on them. You take what you can get. Last year we picked up Briante Weber, a career 19% 3pt shooter, but that was hardly indicative of Morey's philosophy.

    It remains to be seen how Knight and Chriss are utilized on the team and how long they're actually here. It's not a certainty that we pick up Chriss' option. And considering Knight is coming off an ACL tear and isn't ready to play yet, it looks like we weren't necessarily targeting them as players so much as younger, more tradeable pieces than Ryno's big contract was.

    Morey has always been willing to take chances. He traded for Terrence Williams and KJ McDaniels. He drafted Royce White, a forward who couldn't defend or shoot but had a high ceiling. We'll pick these guys up, but the important part is who we actually keep.
     
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